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From Kannan Sundararajan <ksundarara...@marketaxess.com>
Subject RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the worstthingsto ever happen
Date Tue, 06 Jul 2004 19:31:56 GMT
Is it? Hope you don't lie. Do you?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ivan Jouikov [mailto:ivj@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:28 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the
worstthingsto ever happen


Jesus agrees with me.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laurence Arabia [mailto:ufo_mechanic@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 11:08 AM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the worstthingsto
> ever happen
> 
> 
> Exactly I agree when you are dealing with a team of 30+ delvelopers you
> either hold reviews every month and tie everyone down to a structure that
> evolves causing confusion and rewrites or the whole lot goes to pot. Which
> is fine if you work for a finance house with buckets of money but where
> productivity is more important than process C++ would not be my choice.
> Degres of abstraction are more difficult to attain.  I would like to hear
> the opinion of a hardcore C++ programmer. Cause I would like to know the
> faults in this argument as I am sure there is. The performance question I
> think is almost irrelvant. If you want performance write C/Assembler in a
> kernel module perferably but ultimately its comes back to a some
> marshalling
> code whose structure has to be easily evolved and adapted its nature is
> almost disposable as protocols and business rules change.
> 
> Whats the opinion on gcj ?
> 
> 
> >From: "SANTOS, DANIEL (SBCSI)" <ds7867@sbc.com>
> >Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >To: "Tomcat Users List" <tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Subject: RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the
> worstthingsto
> >ever happen Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:22:25 -0500
> >
> >If this is the case then I ask you why Java has been the number one
> >programming language for 4 years now?  As was recognized long ago,
> >performance is not everything.  And in fact, means little when you can't
> >get your product out the door because you are still trying to chase down
> >memory leaks, buffer overruns and corrupted pointers.  As somebody else
> >said, C++ programmers will understand this.
> >
> >Daniel
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Eric VERGNAUD [mailto:eric.vergnaud@jlynx.com]
> >Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:33 AM
> >To: Tomcat Users List
> >Subject: Re: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the
> worstthingsto
> >ever happen
> >
> >
> >le 4/07/04 14:27, SH Solutions Ю sh-solutions@gmx.net a Иcrit :
> >
> > > Right now, I would say that java applications (if well written) are at
> >least
> > > half as fast as c applications (also well written).
> >
> >Which means that when your java app is in competition with a native app,
> >youve lost the market.
> >
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