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From "Bill Faulk" <>
Subject RE: Starting tomcat when the DB is down
Date Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:42:39 GMT
Thanks for the replies!

Copying catalina.jar from the 4.1.30 is a good idea if there's a

I guess most people just went to Tomcat 5 without trying the 4.1.30
build. I'll convert to 5 for the next release of my app.

Bill Faulk

-----Original Message-----
From: Shapira, Yoav [] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 2:19 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Starting tomcat when the DB is down

I don't think enough of us tested it well enough to vote.  I'd be very
very surprised if 4.1.30 is not a stable quality build.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Funk []
>Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:13 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Re: Starting tomcat when the DB is down
>4.1.30 went for a stable vote. I guess it didn't get enough +1's for a 
>stable vote. I should be stable enough.
>Worst case, just rip out JDBCRealm.class from server/lib/catalina.jar
>4.1.30) and place it into the server/classes dir (in the correct nested
>Bill Faulk wrote:
>> Hi Tim,
>> Sorry, I forgot to mention I'm running 4.1.29. I didn't see 4.1.30 on

>> the Tomcat downloads page but I do see a 4.1.30-alpha dated
>> on the downloads site. Also, I need to continue this in Tomcat-4 for
>> rather than 5.
>> I'll be moving to production soon so I'm a bit leery of anything with

>> "alpha" in the name. I can try it and put 4.1.29 back if there's a 
>> problem. Thanks for the info!
>> ---
>> Bill Faulk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Funk []
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 1:08 PM
>> To: Tomcat Users List
>> Subject: Re: Starting tomcat when the DB is down
>> Which version? I thought 4.1.30 was patched to allow tomcat to start
>> even
>> if the database realm connect failed.
>> -Tim
>> Bill Faulk wrote:
>>>Hi Folks,
>>>I am using SQL Server 2000 via the JDBC realm with forms 
>>>authentication. If the database is down when tomcat starts there is
>>>unhandled LifecycleException generated and tomcat quits. I have the 
>>>code in place in my login.jsp to generate a "please try again later" 
>>>style message (or whatever other message I choose) if the database 
>>>goes down after Tomcat starts. However, I want to avoid a "Cannot
>>>server" error if the database isn't up.

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