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From: "Brian McDonald" <b.mcdonald@ieee.org>
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1: non-LE or LE
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:48:35 -0400
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I imagine I don't need connection pooling at this stage of my =
development. I'm
more concerned - as I've written at the top of this thread - with =
setting up a
development environment for an end-to-end XML-based JSP application. And =
even
though I don't /need/ to integrate Tomcat with IIS5 on my W2K machine to =
develop
this app, it seems like a valuable exercise in and of itself. That said, =
if it
proves to be too maddening a process - I'll short circuit and go for =
Tomcat
standalone.

I don't know very much about Java's XML processing capability. But it =
sounds
like Jacob is stating that I'll be able - at the very least - to use
j2sdk1.4.x's Crimson. But what if I want Xerces? (Why wouldn't I?) Can I =
add
that capability to j2sdk1.4.x? I realize that these sound like questions =
for a
J2SE newsgroup... but can someone tell me specifically how choosing =
Tomcat-LE
will affect me in this regard - i.e., with regard to XML support?

And, Yoav, I would prefer to get the download/install right /before/ I =
bang my
head against unnecessary problems. That's why I'm posting to =
Tomcat-Users!
Expert advice and insight! I'm a newbie not a newborn!

Brian


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacob Kjome [mailto:hoju@visi.com]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:06 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: Tomcat 4.1: non-LE or LE
>=20
>=20
> At 09:07 AM 5/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >There are no ramifications [to using the Tomcat LE version]=20
> if you have
> >JDK 1.4.  That's why it's so
> >simple ;)
>=20
> Hi Yoav,
>=20
> I beg to differ on this issue.  There *are* ramifications to=20
> using the LE=20
> version because the way it is set up.   The difference isn't=20
> just that=20
> Tomcat doesn't include libraries that the j2sdk1.4.x already=20
> provides.  It=20
> excludes stuff like, for instance, commons-dbcp, so you when=20
> you try to use=20
> container managed connection pooling in Tomcat, it will just=20
> blow up at you=20
> at runtime.  There are other similar cases that I won't=20
> detail here.  Why=20
> these essential libraries are excluded as part of the LE=20
> release, I fail to=20
> understand....especially when the README pretty much talks about only=20
> excluding libraries that duplicate j2sdk1.4.x functionality.  Quite=20
> misleading.  Also, if your app requires Xerces (which it shouldn't,=20
> but....) then you will feel the ramifications since=20
> j2sdk1.4.x provides=20
> only Crimson.  Xerces is probably also faster and more up to=20
> date with the=20
> specs since it is actively developed where Crimson=20
> development is pretty=20
> much stagnant.
>=20
> These are the reasons why this thread continues on and on.  I=20
> just use the=20
> full release of Tomcat because I want its full functionality=20
> and don't want=20
> to have to worry about things blowing up in my face when I=20
> use standard=20
> Tomcat features and have to wonder which commons-* libraries I'm=20
> missing.  The download isn't that much bigger and it avoids a=20
> whole bunch=20
> of headaches.
>=20
> My $0.02
>=20
> Jake=20
>=20


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