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From "Turner, John" <>
Subject RE: Why won't anyone help me out??
Date Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:06:23 GMT

I was not talking to you, Steve.  I actually shouldn't even be replying now,
but I see you've changed your email address which is how this got past my
filter, and I would like to try and help (I really would), but I honestly
don't have the time.  Even if I did, I am primarily a systems administrator,
not a developer, so I doubt I could answer your Java programming questions.
I've tried and tried and tried to help you in the past, as have other
people, and it just isn't an effective, efficient use of my time.

My suggestion: buy a book (like the two O'Reilly books dealing with servlets
and JSPs) and subscribe to a java-user list.  You'll probably get a lot more
response for your beginning Java questions there than you will here.   I'm
not being "arrogant" or "mighty" when I say that (I'm actually a very humble
person but with an extremely direct and blunt demeanor), I am simply making
an observation.  You've been posting here for months (at least 8) and are
still having problems, the most recent of which are not related to Tomcat.
I think that may be a good indicator for you that this list is not the list
that can help you, and is not a list where you can get help the quickest.
I'm sure there are other lists out there that can give you the full and
complete answer you are looking for, and do so in the timeframe you demand.


-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Burrus [] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:25 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Why won't anyone help me out??

Hi John, were you directly addressing me in your post or that other guy who
wrote me that little "choice" email?? I don't wanna perpetuate this "flame
war" which I seem to be momentarily "bogged down" in right now, but I was
just a little bit curious as to who you were talking to!!!

 Surely the "mighty" John Turner hasn't broken his self-imposed silence as
far as dealing with "little pathetic me", because IF you have possibly
broken that silence, then I have a "doozy" of a program that I could
certainly refer to you and yer expertise in "all things tomcat"! The program
is a simple login.jsp that authenticates a user's pw and username to then
let him/her into their email inbox say. If you happen to know a Filip Hanik
of our group, ask him for the details of my particular problem because I
just now emailed him all of the required files which I have been using in
the program.  



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