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From "Shapira, Yoav" <>
Subject RE: How close 'till release?
Date Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:32:41 GMT
Very well-written.  I completely agree with Monsieur Hartung.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Will Hartung []
>Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 2:44 PM
>To: Tomcat Users List
>Subject: Re: How close 'till release?
>From: "Milt Epstein" <>
>Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:11 AM
>> I mean, I understand (and sympathize with what you're saying), but I
>> also understand the position of those who want to wait until there's
>> "release"-quality code available.  I mean, what will the typical
>> manager say after the production system breaks down and you tell them
>> that you went with "beta"-quality code instead of "release"-quality
>> code.
>It's all a matter of expectations. I find that most people want the
>to work and aren't really caught up on release numbers and labels.
>Now, through probably painful experience, people have lower
expectations of
>1.0 code, "Beta" code, etc. They pretty much expect it to fail in some,
>perhaps critical, way. They may use the label as an indicator whether
>code is worth testing.
>But the real problem is not necessarily whether its Beta or Release
>it is the testing facilities available to the consumers.
>If you had a deployed application and a solid, thorough feature and
>test suite of your application, then it shouldn't matter what the back
>code is labeled. If your test is complete and robust enough and thus
>confirms that your application will behave as designed, then Release or
>are irrelevant.
>The dark side of this is that folks will say "Well, gee I don't have to
>'test' release code, it's already tested!".
>To wit everybody falls over on the floor in hysterics.
>The acceptance process for the software should be the same whether Beta
>Release. No matter how thorough the testing by the folks developing the
>application, no doubt they have NOT tested their software on YOUR
>application with YOUR load conditions on YOUR hardware.
>And it should go without saying that this applies to any major
>component in your application, not just Tomcat. Don't just blindly
>your system to Solaris 9, Oracle 9i and new Firewall software and then
>the application live because it's all "release quality" software.
>There are disclaimers in those licenses for a reason. Caveat Emptor and
>Will Hartung
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