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From "Gus Heck" <sparver...@telocity.com>
Subject Re: Does Tomcat want to stand alone?
Date Wed, 05 Jun 2002 03:37:12 GMT
I don't think it is so hard to do the java part, and I suspect that the
tomcat part isn't that hard either, but I am really criticising the
documentation more than anything else. I am not opposed to extra keystrokes
for benefits of java, but I do really dislike reading page after irrelevant
page hoping to stumble on the nugget I need. I feel that the documentation
focuses on the neat cool things that tomcat does that non java servers
don't, and omits the routine basic stuff. Even if it takes a few more
keystrokes or some extra thought in Tomcat, I shouldn't have trouble finding
out how to turn of directory indexing. (for example).

Gus

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Hollander" <hh@mobile.mp>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Does Tomcat want to stand alone?


> On Monday 03 June 2002 18:24, you wrote:
> > My impression of Tomcat is that one winds up having to learn ALL of it's
> > features at once. It is also very hard to find out answers to simple
things
> > on their web site... like how do you turn off directory indexing in
Tomcat?
> > I can find stuff on security managers, jndi and class loaders, but
whenever
> > I have a simple question I get stuck.
>
> One of the common criticisms about Java is that it's great for big-scale
> stuff but it's harder to use for small stuff.  This really is true, and
it's
> also true for Tomcat.  You can learn perl very quickly and you can write a
> basic cgi and install it in apache very quickly.  Just learning how to
> install and get Tomcat started is a challenge.  Just writing "hello world"
is
> vastly more complicated.  You can write a hello-world cgi in two lines.
In
> Java you need to install everything, and then subclass Servlet, and set up
> web.xml, etc, etc.  So you are right, you need to learn a lot more to do
> simple stuff, but it works a lot better when you need to do big stuff.
>
> But if you are already familiar with java and tomcat it because very quick
> and easy to set up simple applications.
>
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