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From Árni Arent <>
Date Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:15:09 GMT
Sorry for the flame :)

Just got very frustrated. I am very patient, and yes I've read the install
documentation carefully and followed it step by step, that I am sure of.
However the install documentation is way too long, too many things users
have to consider.

My setup is Win2000, IIS and Tomcat3.2.4.

I've managed to get tomcat to work, however it doesn't run with IIS nor did
I manage to install tomcat as a service.

My problem is this
When starting the NT service I get:
Asked (and given) winsock 1.1
Error: StartServiceCtrlDispatcher failed.


-----Original Message-----
From: todd tredeau []
Sent: 8. apríl 2002 15:08
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE

I completely disagree with you. I am NOT a programmer, and pretty easily
figured out the BASIC installation, ie:unzip/expand and run. Is it
possible this is a case of No Planning, or Not Reading the ample
documentation, How many unanswered questions have you posted?

I'm sorry, but this type of message leaves me to believe you spent NO
effort to solve your own problems, read the documentation, or spec your

It would seem that PHP, JSP, CFM, ASP, etc.. are each suited to
particular needs. I can't say that I would want to go from one to
another without a better plan.

In 16 years, I have seen a lot of software, for a lot of money, free,
commercial and everything in between. I personally haven't gotten that
involved in "open source" projects except for the last couple years,
while I don't feel I'm qualified to do much, I do what I can. The power
of hundreds and thousands of minds, is far better than anything I have seen.

While it is often true, extra pains are taken to get things working,
installed or configured, typically if you have a clue what you are doing
to start with it helps. At the same time, I have never posted a question
without some sort of positive response, perhaps, if you considered
putting your demand for perfection aside, you could learn and contribute
to the project, providing feedback and guidance to developers so they
know what works better, that is the power of any project.

Would I be correct in assuming your trying to run tomcat on windows
platform? I would agree with you however on one thing, there are far too
many strains of Tomcat out right now.... Stratify your projects...too
hard to support too many.

collaborative effort to promote Novell and Open Source solutions

opinions expressed here are my own, and I have no official affiliation
with Novell, Apache or any of their sub-projects.

Árni Arent wrote:

>Your software, Tomcat, is a nightmare to install. I've spent 2 WHOLE days
>trying to make it work without success.
>Endless configuration files, paths, etc. making this a impossible software
>to use. I doubt I'm the only one who has complaint.
>I won't use this crap, I'm switching to PHP, took me 5 minutes to figure
>that out.
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