I think there is a way to solve the problem without shutting down port 8080. Someone please verify this is true. If I use a servlet, my servlet can determine if the connection is from 8443 or 8080 and if it is from 8080 can deny the user access right away. Is this correct? I was kind of waiting on an answer like this. thanks, Dean -- To unsubscribe: For additional commands: Troubles with the list: