Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-user-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 65319 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2001 23:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Nov 2001 23:32:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 6267 invoked by uid 97); 10 Nov 2001 23:32:00 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 6197 invoked by uid 97); 10 Nov 2001 23:31:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact tomcat-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tomcat Users List" Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 6066 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2001 23:31:59 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:31:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Apache people, For god's sake Do something! From: felix To: Tomcat Users List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > From: "Martin van den Bemt" > Help and fixing issues are done at a very high speed rate on tomcat, I > wouldn't bet my money on getting this with commercial companies! > The beautiful way of open source is indeed, as said by Graham, if it itches, > scratch it (yourself..) > > Mvgr, > Martin but another failure of commercial software is that the biz people drive the development pace so that too many features get added at the cost of stability and purity of concept. and so we would hope that open source developers didn't also get on that track, and spent more time getting a pure, simple and immediately understandable api/config. this is very common in web-shops. crap code because its all about what the manager sees coming out the other end. in the long run everybody pays for it: i have to waste too long fixing a crap implementation and its more hours for everyone. tomcat's config problems have wasted thousands and thousands of development dollars/hours that could have been spent fixing the problem in the first place. apologies to tomcat developers, i really don't want to rag on you. if i wasn't developing several other systems/projects, i would get further involved. i might in the future. -- To unsubscribe: For additional commands: Troubles with the list: