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From Timothy Fisher <trfishe...@yahoo.com>
Subject RE: Welcome to the Tomcat 4.0 F.A.Q. on-line forum.
Date Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:27:39 GMT
I think the forums are a GREAT addition!

--- "Mangi, Rick" <rick.mangi@zcmgroup.com> wrote:
> Pier,
> 
> I don't think this makes a whole lot of sense. I
> understand the advantages
> of a forum vs. a mailing list, but requiring people
> to look for a link at
> the bottom and then register to reply... it just
> ain't gonna happen, and
> you're going to spend a lot of time reminding people
> to check if it's a
> message from the forum. I'd suggest you filter on
> the subject fields and
> have an agent subscribed to the mailing list
> automatically posting the
> messages up there.
> 
> Being a realist... I don't see this working.
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:pier@betaversion.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:41 PM
> To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Welcome to the Tomcat 4.0 F.A.Q. on-line
> forum.
> 
> 
> In the effort of better managing our resources
> Apache wide, and specifically
> in our case in the scope of the Jakarta project,
> here is a little new
> addition to our set of "tools". A web-based forum
> system.
> 
> Some of you have asked "why" do we need a forum,
> aren't our mailing lists
> enough to support our needs? My reply is simple, we
> need both.
> 
> The on-line forum, first of all, allows you do a
> couple of nifty things that
> people asked: search messages in an intelligent way
> (our mail archives
> already do so, but most of the time, the precision
> of their search engine is
> not, well, the best you can get).
> 
> Plus, each question there is organized and threaded
> better than any Email
> client can do (there is a big discussion about how
> to interpret the
> In-Reply-To header, and some popular email clients
> "forget" to include it in
> messages), and the topics are way more visible than
> on a mailing list with
> an average of more than 200 messages a day.
> 
> There are some more features, like: wouldn't it be
> nice to be able to be
> notified and receive replies only to MY particular
> question, avoiding all
> the other hundreds of emails that flow daily to your
> mail client? Well, a
> web forum allows you to do that, you can create a
> thread, the one with your
> little particular problem, and "watch it", being
> notified via email about
> what replies I got only to my problem. Or looking
> and being notified about
> that little problem I had and was reported by
> another guy... All that can be
> done only thru a well-managed forum, and the current
> internet-mail system is
> not sufficient to achieve that.
> 
> And PLUS, every message you send thru the web-forum
> is actually "mirrored"
> on our mailing list (I'm still figuring out how to
> do the opposite, but
> given enough brainpower -which I don't have at the
> moment - I'm sure I can
> do that!), so everyone will see it (nope, you won't
> loose visibility, and
> you don't have to post your messages twice).
> 
> I just a couple of little favors to ask you all. If
> you see a message coming
> from the web-forum (and you will recognize it by the
> lines at the bottom of
> the message, take this one for example), and you
> want to reply, don't simply
> hit "reply" on your client, but instead click on the
> link at the bottom, and
> respond on-line. Your message will be archieved,
> stored, and you won't have
> to reply to the same question anymore. And if you
> want to reply to someone
> on the list, before doing so, check whether the same
> question has already
> been answered on the forum. The more we use it now,
> the less we'll have to
> use it in the future.
> 
> Last little question, please, if you see something
> wrong or offensive on the
> forum, please notify
> <mailto:webmaster@jakarta.apache.org>, and we'll be
> able to remove it...
> 
> Thanks for listening...
> 
>     Pier
> 
>
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