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From Timothy Kettering <>
Subject Re: Problem with "empty" key word on a collection.
Date Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:11:39 GMT

Not surprised at that - a prior company I worked at, where I first 
learned Java, they had consultants and (i thought..) smart engineers 
working together to develop a quite large web application.  The company 
folded a year later, and I moved on.  It wasn't till after I got into 
jsp/servlets that I realized that they had horribly mangled the MVC.. 
namely they wrote the entire thing in a couple massive behemoth JSP 
page and not a single servlet in sight.  I remember one particular .jsp 
being over 4000 lines.

I've since come to the conclusion that so-called consultants get their 
$150/hr jobs either by being experts, or by sheer incompetence.  Which 
happens more often, I don't know.  :)

On Friday, February 14, 2003, at 01:33 PM, O'brien, Tim wrote:
> You might laugh at this, but I've worked with high priced consultants 
> from
> well respected companies who always managed to do something like
> System.exit(0); in a Servlet.  :-)  Or, better yet, the certified "web
> developer" from a 3-letter acronym company (not IBM) who liked to 
> write all
> content to a temporary file before sending it back to the client.

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