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From "Karr, David" <David.K...@wamu.net>
Subject RE: Non Java Developers, programmers using JSTL and taglibs
Date Tue, 04 Feb 2003 16:51:26 GMT
Ideally, applications will be designed using the Web MVC paradigm, so
view pages will contain only "view logic".  However, in a complex
application, using even the most popular frameworks (Struts, for
instance), it's still difficult to completely avoid using scriptlets or
scriptlet expressions.  If you use the JSTL, however, along with perhaps
the Struts-EL library, then it's much easier to write complete pages
that don't use a single scriptlet.  You can even use the tag library
validator that comes with the JSTL that enforces the goal of not having
scriptlets on your page.

In short, what's important to realize is that the syntax of scriptlets
and scriptlet expressions is harder for non-programmers to understand,
as compared to understanding conditional JSTL tags using the EL.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lyndon Durham [mailto:net.reality@verizon.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:55 PM
To: Tag Libraries Users List
Subject: Non Java Developers, programmers using JSTL and taglibs

Greetings,
                As a software developer I would like to delegate some of

the more mundane and simpler development tasks to non developers, 
programmers etc.  The JSTL specification document claims that the jstl 
was created to facilitate or ease development for web designers and non 
java programmers. It is my experience that jstl and other taglibs like 
jakarta standard taglibs are still rather convulted for the likes of 
wyswig web designers and other non java programmers.  What is the point 
of developing applications that make succint use of jstl if as the 
developer I still have to spend myraid hours explaining how to use tags 
to the less initated or persons who are not programmers or developers. 
All comments are appreciated or anyone whose had a better experience 
delgating developing using taglibs.


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