Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-taglibs-user-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 42539 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2002 20:08:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Jun 2002 20:08:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 2194 invoked by uid 97); 12 Jun 2002 20:08:55 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-taglibs-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 2000 invoked by uid 97); 12 Jun 2002 20:08:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact taglibs-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tag Libraries Users List" Reply-To: "Tag Libraries Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list taglibs-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 1924 invoked by uid 98); 12 Jun 2002 20:08:53 -0000 X-Antivirus: nagoya (v4198 created Apr 24 2002) Message-ID: <3D078009.6000609@jspinsider.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:08:25 -0400 From: Jayson Falkner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020605 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tag Libraries Users List Subject: Re: JSTL XML, URL, and SQL tags, does anyone use them? References: <3D010214.4040809@jspinsider.com> <3D025473.4020102@gefionsoftware.com> <3D04DC42.5080007@jspinsider.com> <3D063BD0.8020800@gefionsoftware.com> <3D0646B7.6010905@jspinsider.com> <3D06B456.5010202@jspinsider.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Paul DuBois wrote: > Well, now you're re-framing your question to get the answer you want. Your > original message asked a much more general question, which was whether > anyone > uses JSTL and finds it helpful. Yes I am, sorry I don't mean to waste time, but, I loaded the question so I could narrow it down on interesting parts. Overall it has helped quite a bit, thanks to everyone's well-thought responses. > You've been asking several questions here, and I'd like to ask some in > return, since I've noticed that other people here other than myself are > beginning to wonder the same thing: What's your purpose in this > discussion? > Where are you going with it? It *seems* that you've essentially made up > your mind that MVC is terrific and are looking for ammunition against JSTL. > Or are you trying to find where the border is between them in terms of > application complexity that would justify switching from one to the other? I'm trying to clarify the border between the two prominent and helpful JSP design approaches. The motivation is a title I'm helping with for JSP 2.0/Servlets 2.4. It is aimed more for building complex web apps via MVC, hopefully that helps explain my behavior. Jayson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: