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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache Tomcat Maven plugin 2.0-beta-1
Date Wed, 01 Feb 2012 18:50:43 GMT
On 1 February 2012 13:33, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org> wrote:
> 2012/2/1 Mark Thomas <markt@apache.org>:
>> On 01/02/2012 13:01, sebb wrote:
>>> On 1 February 2012 11:56, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 2012/2/1 sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>:
>>>>> On 1 February 2012 10:14, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> As the others currently provided tomcat maven artifacts, adding those
>>>>>> in the download section doesn't have (IMHO) sense.
>>>>>> Because to be able to consume it within a maven build, users will
have
>>>>>> to install it locally respecting the maven repository format layout.
>>>>>> So when the vote passed the files available in the staging repository
>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomcat-142/
>>>>>> will be sync to http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/tomcat/
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What we can do at least is to add in the ASF download system the
>>>>>> source archive. See files *-source-release.zip* in
>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomcat-142/org/apache/tomcat/maven/tomcat-maven-plugin/2.0-beta-1/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least with the file named
>>>>>> tomcat-maven-plugin-2.0-beta-1-source-release.zip you can rebuild
the
>>>>>> plugins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Makes sense ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache Commons also releases code which is mainly consumed by Maven users.
>>>>> All the components are released to the Apache mirrors (as source and
>>>>> binary archives) as well as to Maven Central (as jars, with additional
>>>>> src and javadoc jars).
>>>>> Same as Tomcat itself, really.
>>>>
>>>> For commons it's artifacts/jars which can be consume "manually" but
>>>> AFAIK consuming "manually" maven plugins jars doesn't have sense IMHO.
>>>
>>> The ASF releases source - from which it must be possible to build the plugin.
>>> That's not generally easy or even possible from the jars that are
>>> released to Maven Central.
>>>
>>>> If the case of a Maven plugin, I can put the jars in something like
>>>> http://apache.multidist.com/tomcat/maven-plugin/ but so how will you
>>>> use it ? installing manually using mvn install:.... ?
>>>
>>> You don't; you use the copies in Maven Central.
>>>
>>>> And If I go here : http://apache.multidist.com/tomcat/tomcat-7/v7.0.25/bin/
>>>> I don't see maven artifacts which are available here:
>>>> http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2/org/apache/tomcat/tomcat-api/7.0.25/
>>>
>>> Exactly.
>>>
>>> Tomcat (as Commons) releases are made to *both* the mirrors *and* Maven Central.
>>>
>>> The ASF mirrors are for source and binary archives.
>>> The Maven Central repo is used for the binary jars, along with pom and
>>> accompanying source/javadoc jars.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> The primary/master/whatever Tomcat release is the source that we voted
>> on. It comes in two formats .zip and .tar.gz. Everything else (the
>> binaries, the Maven artefacts, the docs) is (and can be by anyone who
>> cares to) derived from that source release.
>>
>> Every Apache release *must* have a source form from which everything
>> else may be derived. Without that, the release is invalid.
>
> Yup I proposed to add
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachetomcat-142/org/apache/tomcat/maven/tomcat-maven-plugin/2.0-beta-1/tomcat-maven-plugin-2.0-beta-1-source-release.zip
>
> In http://www.apache.org/dist/tomcat/maven-plugin/ ?

Not forgetting the corresponding .asc/.md5/.sha1 as well.

[But you can & should omit the .asc.md5 and .asc.sha1 files which are useless]

>>
>> Mark
>>
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