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From Mark Thomas <>
Subject Re: Removing whitespace from *.xsd and *.dtd files
Date Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:23:14 GMT
On 23/10/2011 23:13, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> 2011/10/24 Mark Thomas <>:
>> On 23/10/2011 10:39, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>> I am -1 on applying trailing whitespaces check on *.java files.
>>> It has no practical value. It does not improve readability. I do not
>>> see what it can be useful for. It is just useless nagging.
>> Trailing white-space is pointless and it bugs me. Maybe that is just me,
>> but I'd like to get rid of it.
>> My original plan was to just configure my IDE to remove trailing
>> white-space when I saved a file but that led to the occasional noisy
>> commit where the white-space changes hid the real change if I forgot to
>> do a white-space only commit first. That was starting to get tricky
>> keeping track of which files I had 'fixed' and which ones I hadn't.
>> Given the above, removing all of the trailing white-space in one go
>> (well, several goes as a single commit was just way too big) seemed like
>> the sensible way forward.
>> In terms of benefit, it shaved ~1% of the compressed source. Nothing to
>> write home about I agree but 1% pointless fat removed it still 1%
>> pointless fat removed.
>> Having gone to the trouble to remove all the trailing white-space, I'd
>> like to keep it that way and enabling the check-style check is the
>> simplest way to do that. It does mean folks working on trunk need to
>> configure their IDEs to remove trailing white-space on save for that
>> project but that doesn't seem like such a big deal.
>>> There are file types where check for trailing whitespace is useful,
>>> e.g. *.properties files, (because whitespaces are not trimmed from the
>>> values that are read from the file and might be visible).
>> +1
>>> But for *.java files I do not see any benefits.
>> In absolute terms, the benefit is minimal (~1% smaller source files) but
>> the bigger benefit for me is that it doesn't bug me any more.
> 1. I hate text editors that change lines that I did not touch.

Fair enough. We all have the things that drive us slowly nuts.

> 2. Do you have separate options for trunk and for 3 other branches?

Yes. I have no intention of back-porting the white-space changes to
7.0.x or earlier.

> I do not mind if your commit changes whitespace. It does not impede
> review. It is your itch, your editor, whatever. There is no technical
> merit to discuss when such commit happens.
> I do not like this to be enforced on people.

We can limit the checkstyle check if you feel strongly about this.

> BTW, reviewing properties changes, note the *.properties files in
> See "jsp.error.usebean.missing.type",
> "",
> "jsp.error.usebean.not.both", "".
> They all ended with ":" + space. From quick search though it looks
> that most of them, if not all, are unused.

More stuff to delete then :). I'll take a look unless you beat me to it.

>> On a related topic, unused code is next up on my list of things to clean
>> up. My plan is 1 commit to trunk to mark it deprecated. Back-port that
>> commit to 7.0.x and then remove it from trunk. I'll probably do this
>> package by package but I'll see how it goes.
> All on the next week, or you'll wait after next 6.0.x and 7.0.x?

I wish :). I suspect that this will be a long process. I intend to do it
gradually as I have the time. My gut feeling is it will happen over months.


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