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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:53:40 +0200
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Subject: Re: Links to Sun/Oracle on welcome page
From: Wesley Acheson <wesley.acheson@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Pid <pid@pidster.com> wrote:
> On 25/08/2010 10:14, Mladen Turk wrote:
>> On 08/25/2010 10:53 AM, Rainer Jung wrote:
>>>
>>> What about linking to the Specs? Like
>>>
>>> http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr315/index.html
>>>
>>
>> Still, is it so important that this should be listed on
>> the front page. We already have those links
>> (should be updated for Tomcat7 BTW) in our documentation,
>> so having that on the front page makes no sense to me.
>>
>> I'd rather have them completely removed.
>
> Minor changes:
>
> =A0http://people.apache.org/~pidster/tomcat/ROOT/
>
> The intention is/was to promote user education, via reading of the
> spec(s), I felt that this was a Good Thing.
>
> I'm out of ideas for other stuff to put in the dev quick start, so I'll
> probably drop the extra column unless there's other ideas?
>
>
> Can I also draw some attention to the 1.2.3 list at the top, as it's a
> little haphazard at present and I'd like some input as to what people
> think is the most important 3 things a user should do after installation.
>
>
> p
>

I don't know if your taking input from the public on this, if you are
firstly looks great and useful. Please don't take the following as
destructive critism. I like the feel to the new design.

I think you still need the information that you are looking at
root.war in there somewhere. Its the first thing that most new
installs will want to know. How to change the page your looking at.

At a resolution of 800x600 there is a minor issue with the left most
column the text "$CATALINA_HOME/conf/tomcat-users.xml" is truncated
behind the middle column.

I don't know if it gives too good of an impression to have css that
doesn't validate. I know this is because you are using the vendor
extensions instead of the standards.

Similarly the markup doesn't validate. I'm pretty sure this one
should. Please note the previous tomcat root page didn't validate
either.

I'm not that keen on the "buttons" on the right hand side of "upper".
Users attach a different meaning to a button than to a link, I think
it may decrease usablity.

In future you will not be able to change a background image on hover.

The checkbox may be a bit misleading to people also especially as it
implies something has or hasn't been done which isn't necessarily
true.

I think the contrast should be increased in the rolover of the
checkbox links in the header in case of people with impaired vision.

Regards,

Wes

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