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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Links to Sun/Oracle on welcome page
Date Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:47:16 GMT
On 26 August 2010 11:12, Pid <pid@pidster.com> wrote:
> On 26/08/2010 07:26, Henri Gomez wrote:
>>
>>
>> Le 26 août 2010 à 00:44, Konstantin Kolinko <knst.kolinko@gmail.com> a écrit
:
>>
>>> 2010/8/25 Mladen Turk <mturk@apache.org>:
>>>> On 08/25/2010 10:53 AM, Rainer Jung wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What about linking to the Specs? Like
>>>>>
>>>>> http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr315/index.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still, is it so important that this should be listed on
>>>> the front page. We already have those links
>>>> (should be updated for Tomcat7 BTW) in our documentation,
>>>> so having that on the front page makes no sense to me.
>>>>
>>>> I'd rather have them completely removed.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am +1 to remove spec links from ROOT/index.html
>>
>> +1
>
> That is +3 for removal (and a possible -0) by my count, so far.  Anyone
> else?
>
>>> "1","2","3" checkboxes - are they important? Design is pretty and
>>> catching, but are those the tasks to do for every new Tomcat
>>> installation?
>
> I don't think the current content is good; I do think that this location
> should be used to display Important Things Every User Should Know (or
> Do).  It needn't be 123.
>
>>> BTW, "3 Tell us you have installed..." is not functional at all
>>> without a server side script,
>>> and is a feature that I personally do not like (e.g. Sun's "Register
>>> me" page that pops up after installing a JDK on Windows). Maybe
>>> somebody finds such feedback useful?
>
> It would be easy to process logs to get that feedback - e.g. if the
> version is passed in the URL the user just sees a static 'Welcome' page
> - but maybe just the download stats are enough.
>
>>> "1. Now join announce@tomcat.apache.org"
>>> Is done once and not needed later. It is also already written in red
>>> text in the right part of the page.
>>>
>>> "2. Configure the Manager App roles"
>>> It is actually a link to error 403 page?  BTW, using tomcat-users.xml
>>> is not the only way to configure authentication. There are other Realm
>>> implementations as well.
>
> I was running out of ideas.  :s
>
>>> There is
>>> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/html-manager-howto.html
>>> (though it does not say how to setup the manager webapp, only how to use it).
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, this page may be a recommended reading:
>>> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/security-howto.html
>
> Yep, that's a really good candidate for the top of the page.
>
>>> "App Manager" button.  I think it is just "Manager".  BTW, it is
>>> called "Manager App" elsewhere on this page.
>
> I'll double check links and text for consistency before submitting the
> final-ish version.
>
>>> "Tomcat 7.0 SVN Repository" link -- I think that usually people give
>>> links to the viewvc page, or it would be better to link to
>>> http://tomcat.apache.org/svn.html  to provide some explanation.
>
>>> - documentation links should go to tomcat.apache.org, or to local /docs/ ?
>
> That's an interesting point - the existing version links to the local
> version.  The network version may/will be more current, so it's probably
> better to link to apache.org.  Objections?

Or link to both local and online so the user has the choice?

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