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From Henri Gomez <henri.go...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Links to Sun/Oracle on welcome page
Date Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:26:30 GMT


Le 26 août 2010 à 00:44, Konstantin Kolinko <knst.kolinko@gmail.com> a écrit :

> 2010/8/25 Mladen Turk <mturk@apache.org>:
>> On 08/25/2010 10:53 AM, Rainer Jung wrote:
>>> 
>>> What about linking to the Specs? Like
>>> 
>>> http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr315/index.html
>>> 
>> 
>> Still, is it so important that this should be listed on
>> the front page. We already have those links
>> (should be updated for Tomcat7 BTW) in our documentation,
>> so having that on the front page makes no sense to me.
>> 
>> I'd rather have them completely removed.
>> 
> 
> I am +1 to remove spec links from ROOT/index.html

+1

> 
> My thoughts are that
> 1) The specifications are PDF files. They can be downloaded once and
> be kept offline, and nobody will need those links anymore.

Exact. 
> 
> 2) If someone has wrote a webapp, it is too late to read the specs. ;)

In real (user) Life, rare are developpers reading the full specs. 

They take a look at it to solve obscurs points. 

> They will come with questions, but we already have those links, e.g.
> here: http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/FAQ
> 
> 3) Tomcat actually supports not only the latest spec. version, but
> previous versions as well. It is not a reference implementation
> either.

May be the major reason. Good point. 
> 
> 4) If we want to document which spec versions we are using, let's do
> it in the documentation webapp or in release notes, not here.
> 
Main Tomcat page detail Servlet/JSP Apis covered/implemented by each Tomcat version. 
> 
> ============================
> 
> Regarding some other information on the page, my thoughts:
> 
> "1","2","3" checkboxes - are they important? Design is pretty and
> catching, but are those the tasks to do for every new Tomcat
> installation?
> 
> BTW, "3 Tell us you have installed..." is not functional at all
> without a server side script,
> and is a feature that I personally do not like (e.g. Sun's "Register
> me" page that pops up after installing a JDK on Windows). Maybe
> somebody finds such feedback useful?
> 
> "1. Now join announce@tomcat.apache.org"
> Is done once and not needed later. It is also already written in red
> text in the right part of the page.
> 
> "2. Configure the Manager App roles"
> It is actually a link to error 403 page?  BTW, using tomcat-users.xml
> is not the only way to configure authentication. There are other Realm
> implementations as well.
> 
> There is
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/html-manager-howto.html
> (though it does not say how to setup the manager webapp, only how to use it).
> 
> 
> BTW, this page may be a recommended reading:
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/security-howto.html
> 
> 
> "App Manager" button.  I think it is just "Manager".  BTW, it is
> called "Manager App" elsewhere on this page.
> 
> 
> Examples webapps links. BTW, those are a single webapp now (were
> different webapps in 5.5 and earlier).   Is it right to call them
> "Tomcat * examples" ? Most of them were designed as app-server
> neutral.
> 
> "Tomcat 7.0 SVN Repository" link -- I think that usually people give
> links to the viewvc page, or it would be better to link to
> http://tomcat.apache.org/svn.html  to provide some explanation.
> 
> 
> Just technically:
> - ASF logo image now links to manager/html. It should link to www.apache.org.
> These probably were made for this preview, but shall be corrected
> before committing:
> - examples app links should be relative links, without explicit
> "localhost:8080".
> - documentation links should go to tomcat.apache.org, or to local /docs/ ?
> 
> Best regards,
> Konstantin Kolinko
> 
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