Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 47628 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2008 14:46:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Apr 2008 14:46:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 21954 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2008 14:46:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-dev-archive@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 21889 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 2008 14:46:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@tomcat.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 21877 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2008 14:46:41 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:46:41 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of henri.gomez@gmail.com designates 209.85.200.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.200.175] (HELO wf-out-1314.google.com) (209.85.200.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:45:58 +0000 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so2143134wff.12 for ; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RcTtKC2gp6TjBJDezd8Xhl10tsd2zxzkQbZx9k4pQ4k=; b=Z/licwJPHSMX2qv8jNCQ5jlJ1kW3bYd2dOs1OwOIyZkSrJvDNo+NwtWUTQWywEzQuTnMfiLvxEqQYvIrc8eZHEtW6KohUPt7LvmgiKMMi7kCZxVda5ww9Mwn7dC2muwgs0MldXPCpL4t0zwmMPQQd4Kt1IfEGWav1XBnRL6ivvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UwBs4LNWgcqVBswtOGzqiSafrhrPrIAE40NJsRVSWesMQFGP+ySprod6/kx1flh6Fiak1fgH0z7nWqEztulxFFg1J2UY36/YHEXPY+sc/uiu5sv2x3+tQfIucPae/d3gKTMtF+SS2BboLeg6iDb3bvc3zGw9LB3USQb/1vgtkh4= Received: by 10.142.106.18 with SMTP id e18mr181790wfc.33.1208961969262; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.164.11 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6291fc850804230746n4a148507pba3f90a347504ad1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:46:09 +0200 From: "Henri Gomez" To: "Tomcat Developers List" , costin@apache.org Subject: Re: Osgifing Tomcat In-Reply-To: <96e4b5230804230656p4b55604l2d16772d108e2ae3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6291fc850804220345w746f8b5cwc98eba9fbc5bcb14@mail.gmail.com> <1208950508.3303.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <96e4b5230804230656p4b55604l2d16772d108e2ae3@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org > I share your concern about OSGI and hype :-) As a regular Eclipse user, I like OSGI, but from the plugin altitude. > I spent few years working on a project using OSGI heavily, with people > buying the hype. It was a big disaster, most time was spent > reinventing the wheels and turning perfectly simple code to services, > registering the services in a bundle and importing it in another, then > figuring out why it's slow to start up or start order problems or > manifests. Could we say that today OSGI is more mature and stable, ie Equinox or Felix ? > On the other side - OSGI has a good class loader implementation, > probably the best ( JBoss has a good one too - using a similar > delegation mechanism ). And OSGI help modularity > As long as you stick to using the class loader - i.e. have manifests > with imports/exports and the boilerplate - OSGI can be a benefit. > Since IMO the main problem in tomcat is lack of modularity - it > wouldn't be bad to give it a try. A big +1. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@tomcat.apache.org