Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 30972 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2007 22:04:31 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 8 Nov 2007 22:04:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 80904 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2007 22:04:16 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-dev-archive@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 80852 invoked by uid 500); 8 Nov 2007 22:04:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@tomcat.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 80841 invoked by uid 99); 8 Nov 2007 22:04:16 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:04:16 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of preston.bannister@gmail.com designates 64.233.170.185 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.170.185] (HELO rn-out-0102.google.com) (64.233.170.185) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 22:04:20 +0000 Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s46so248763rnb for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:04:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=TNyYBip3KMHj3wImDGvxTtB6oVgA5sUBHlQWcNJaKOk=; b=Cokv8Q/j5TysVqJasNhpdUTSe6zS6xj/QEOnae+Ug2HEnXXJvkjbgdT0ho7SpHd5Ztge6VXWqi8AGvIpdqytRtKGkVvsfS+2xtk7y/xZkj1xhEWwL46ABRFVLYNYJWd1nzrflHxOaNT3oZ3I34u+nzHYJh/kdrLC7+CZhJCk1mI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=BxtIWw5VE3lPkMZgD9d8rJHwrMisB9MXHBqn2OXB39j4gJvcQ9LbDcmsWvw3aQhCJv9GyBT/t2lVrpXP/mmlWxIIeomD+Lctq1HbhwVPDuwr5qSjbORQIwXM1wVY9FOrzuybfBgkCOuxQCCYOIeGdhtfNhEr/1UOilG1Nt+vqkU= Received: by 10.142.226.2 with SMTP id y2mr502847wfg.1194559439144; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.193.21 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:03:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7e91ba7e0711081403o6110ad2cx9bfdceb67a1ddf95@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 14:03:59 -0800 From: "Preston L. Bannister" Sender: preston.bannister@gmail.com To: "Tomcat Developers List" Subject: Re: New Tomcat release? Out of the box bundle with Harmony? In-Reply-To: <6291fc850711081259k31777743wef10ad45188b5bda@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30027_28838649.1194559439116" References: <0830FB07-745E-49B4-BD79-9BA51E388F5B@objektpark.de> <7e91ba7e0711081028u5c190e41m67ca9dd0bba80fb@mail.gmail.com> <6291fc850711081259k31777743wef10ad45188b5bda@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: fd1e94bc86652e7f X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_30027_28838649.1194559439116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Nov 8, 2007 12:59 PM, Henri Gomez wrote: > 2007/11/8, Preston L. Bannister : > > Yes, any such bundle should be under Harmony, not Tomcat. > > Why not Tomcat ? > If you are looking at Harmony, you are (or should be) expecting something experimental. > Speaking as an application developer, the (outside?) chance that a > customer > > could go to download Tomcat, and end up with Harmony - this does not > make me > > happy. At least until I have a *lot* more confidence in Harmony. > Tomcat is > > expected to be mature and reliable. > > If you're confident in Tomcat ,so a 'bundled' Harmoy/Tomcat will help > Harmony team fix failures in the Java Runtime you could detect. > Sadly, I have no interest in testing Harmony. Thanks for the offer, but my plate is already far too full. Nor am I interested in my customers testing Harmony, for pretty much the same reason. Pragmatically, as a web application developer, the Sun JVM is free for my customers, which eliminates any interest (aside from theoretical) in non-Sun, maybe-sorta-kinda-mostly working, and non-performant JVMs. Sun is doing a good job, looks to continue to do so, and seems generally to have a clue about not screwing customers. Good enough. Flip this around - who *does* have a pragmatic interest in testing and development of an open-source JVM? That should suggest a venue. ------=_Part_30027_28838649.1194559439116--