Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 81160 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2007 16:47:47 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Oct 2007 16:47:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 18234 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2007 16:47:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-dev-archive@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 18106 invoked by uid 500); 18 Oct 2007 16:47:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@tomcat.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 18095 invoked by uid 99); 18 Oct 2007 16:47:31 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:47:31 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of paul.shemansky@gmail.com designates 64.233.182.191 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.182.191] (HELO nf-out-0910.google.com) (64.233.182.191) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:47:35 +0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so175118nfb for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:47:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hE7XrRz0MvFHndqqMmBmeEHRipmiKRffGe0JR4uE6jc=; b=IXtFTjuqfYN1eI3j1YyDaU2K34GiIhuEQNFXXNhqjSNdxDES9E1COTCbMghU88ydLh1r0stRT5OpB28DdHbv9i7OuaYGzLJaiqUw5ylFd0OZkKfvG+Pt0Xt8+lJ6dFp6oTcImnSe5P/+n/bv77mYQ+4uh7gX2OIuOFtpz7w9pyA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=O44gwc9w/bKoP1u6mKflfATkMGc7hiemGTB1g5/k2m0bXXgGkOB+l+2Mk9AcSXiECtHOHLdW12bajb09h3+efZUThJzBTLz5psAC0FyMo9kRrofekRUDBSHkWBsTK3vh7LWT3LGmrrh6YsAohShm7t68nFybj5p+AGSs4pPbJDM= Received: by 10.86.62.3 with SMTP id k3mr563512fga.1192726033934; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.62.16 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <73fce4c20710180947y65b66888v1a80fee6ff16ff51@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:47:13 -0400 From: "Paul Shemansky" To: "Tomcat Developers List" , costin@apache.org Subject: Re: Mavenization (M10N) of Tomcat Build Process - Should Tomcat Be Migrated to Maven 2? In-Reply-To: <96e4b5230710171526w3877d292l8964c41677ca393f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <73fce4c20710171321v474dee41i69b477cc47dcef95@mail.gmail.com> <47168882.8050602@hanik.com> <96e4b5230710171526w3877d292l8964c41677ca393f@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 10/17/07, Costin Manolache wrote: > But if you want to create a maven build file ( or a Makefile, or > eclipse/netbeans projects, etc :-) that builds tomcat - I personally don't > see a problem with that - as long as it doesn't require moving code around > and can play nicely with the current code layout and other build tools. I > think the 'official' way to build tomcat should remain ant ( at least until > any potential replacement has a large mileage ), but having other alternate > build tools can't hurt. I apologize if I made this discussion seem like an all-or-nothing dictatorship. This effort could be a huge all-at-once change, or a gradual migration towards Maven. The two can also co-exist well together, accommodating both Maven and Ant users. I hereby encourage all developers not only to vote +1 or -1, but also offer why they feel that way. If you feel it should be a +1, but have some reservations as to "how" it is to be done, by all means share that too. If you're thinking "+1, but only if _____ .", please let everyone know instead of voting -1. > I'm quite happy using mostly eclipse - I hardly ever use ant ( mostly to > generate jars and move code around ), the auto-recompilation and fast > run/debug/hot-replace in eclipse are saving me a lot of time, but if > something faster emerges I'll try it. > Costin > -1 I suppose many of us use eclipse, and any disparate build process in many ways hinders that comfy, rapid IDE development we prefer to enjoy. I agree that the automation the IDE provides is vital to development, and have found many ways to keep Maven in line with that. Would you vote +1 for a slightly more refined co-existence with Maven 2 rather than a blatant full-replacement? Would you vote +1 for full-replacement provided it gives you unhindered, Eclipse-friendly flexibility? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@tomcat.apache.org