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From "Bill Barker" <>
Subject Re: Mavenization (M10N) of Tomcat Build Process - Should Tomcat Be Migrated to Maven 2?
Date Sat, 20 Oct 2007 06:18:46 GMT

"Niall Pemberton" <> wrote in message
> On 10/19/07, Paul Shemansky <> wrote:
>> Hi Yoav,
>> > On 10/19/07, Yoav Shapira <> wrote:
>> > > On 10/19/07, Paul Shemansky <> wrote:
>> > > I'm going to keep waiting for more a few more +1s in the
>> > > "as-an-alternate" category before doing any real work on it.
>> > Speaking only for myself, I don't see how waiting helps anything.  I'm
>> > +0 to you (or anyone else) doing the work and showing us a working
>> > Maven build.  I'm -0 to committing to a build system idea before I see
>> > its implementation.  It's just like most other issues or enhancement
>> > requests: I'm always open to new ideas but I want to see the proof in
>> > the pudding, so to speak.
>> If I commit to working on it, and try to show some sort of
>> proof-in-the-pudding, the issue returns to the problem I mentioned
>> before which is hosting it.  I had originally mentioned the idea of
>> opening a branch for it. However, I don't have commit access to the
>> ASF repository, yet, and I felt too new to be asking for it.  Since I
>> have made everyone aware that I would do the work, and the
>> overwhelming consensus seems to be "integrate-instead-of-migrate", I'm
>> ready to start prototyping in my spare time.  Would you grant me
>> access to commit the finished prototype if turns out to be good
>> pudding?
> Given that the reaction's been pretty negative from those that have
> commit access[1] I wouldn't hold out much hope on this.
> [1]

You have Costin, Yoav, and myself (and probably others, I'm too lazy to 
check the thread :) all on record as +1 for adding M2 as an alt build.  Go 
for it.  Personally I don't like maven, so will not personally support the 
pom.  But that isn't a reason that other people can't support it.

> Niall
>> > And that's coming from someone who used Maven for his day job the past
>> > couple of years, so is not a Maven opponent.
>> Since you use it regularly, how do you personally feel about it? 

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