Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 11823 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2007 13:52:05 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Aug 2007 13:52:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 52927 invoked by uid 500); 22 Aug 2007 13:51:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-dev-archive@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 52809 invoked by uid 500); 22 Aug 2007 13:51:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@tomcat.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list dev@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 52798 invoked by uid 99); 22 Aug 2007 13:51:59 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:51:59 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [72.22.94.67] (HELO virtual.halosg.com) (72.22.94.67) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:52:32 +0000 Received: (qmail 26008 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2007 08:44:40 -0500 Received: from 72-19-171-38.static.mesanetworks.net (HELO ?192.168.3.103?) (72.19.171.38) by halosg.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2007 08:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: <46CC3F64.4020200@hanik.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:51:32 -0600 From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Send trunk to the sandbox References: <20070813181349.791471A981A@eris.apache.org> <46CA1D3B.1070204@apache.org> <46CBCD53.7080500@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <46CBCD53.7080500@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Mark Thomas wrote: > Mark Thomas wrote: > >> Bill Barker wrote: >> >>> I'm so tired of this thread, so let's settle it once and for all. I'm >>> backing Remy's suggestion to send the current trunk to the sandbox: >>> [X] +1 Let's end the revolution >>> [ ] +0 What revolution? >>> [ ] -1 Viva the revolultion >>> >> This applies to this proposal only. Other changes should be proposed >> in other threads. >> > > Expanding on what I said on private@ as I see no reason for it not to > be part of the public discussion... > > I don't see a need for a separate 6.0.x and 6.1.x development at this > point. I have yet to see a convincing technical argument that there is > something sufficiently new and/or different to justify this overhead. > There is enough work to do to maintain 4.1.x, 5.0.x (which we aren't > doing a great job of and I am several months past my promise to do a > security release for 5.0.x), 5.5.x and 6.0.x without adding yet an > other branch. > > Simply, trunk should never have been called trunk, it is a branch. It > should be moved to 6.0.x/branches/whatever > > In terms of moving forward, merge the changes in 'trunk' to 6.0.x. > Ideally this should be done commit by commit or groups of related > commits so we can discuss each of the additions if necessary. If any > attract a veto or are viewed as too experimental etc they can stay in > 6.0.x/branches/whatever until the issues are resolved or that feature > is abandoned. My expectation is that 99% of what is in /trunk can move > to 6.0.x/trunk with little or no debate. > your points are completely valid, here is the thread for trunk http://marc.info/?l=tomcat-dev&m=117940240523993&w=2 the idea, discussed in this thread, was to freeze 6.0 API all together, and continue with new changes in trunk, everyone was in agreement. and if comet was the culprit, that feature can be pulled out, I've must have said that 3 dozen times now. just the history of how we got to where we are at. At this point, I'm beat down by this argument, I'm getting vetoes on other areas just cause folks don't properly look over the patch submitted and are on a pure vendetta, it's too much of a personal head ache to fight that kind of attitude, that has no technical backup. do whatever you want, I'll tag along, my objections have been noted, that's good for now. Filip --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@tomcat.apache.org