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From Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Send trunk to the sandbox
Date Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:28:18 GMT
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> IMO, code talks, bullshit walks. And I've been on both sides
>> of the argument many times in many places.
> Yeah right. So to summarize, we have 3 committers who are happy 
> campers (2 of them which don't contribute much, as far as I know), and 
> the rest of the committers are either do not care or are unhappy. Most 
> also want a change in the development process, and as long as there's 
> agreement on that and it respects the ASF principles, we should be 
> able to do that.
> It's fairly obvious that vetoes which "pack a lot of punch" haven't 
> been taken very seriously. The first reaction is to start arguing that 
> "the veto is not valid", and requalify technical reasons given as "non 
> technical".
you mean like the veto for the 5.5 B2C converter fix, where you and the 
person vetoing hadn't even looked at the patch before writing "technical 

you're kidding yourself at this point

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