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From Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <>
Subject Re: svn commit: r565464 - in /tomcat/tc6.0.x/trunk/java/org/apache: catalina/connector/ catalina/startup/ coyote/ajp/ coyote/http11/ tomcat/util/ tomcat/util/digester/
Date Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:57:12 GMT
Remy Maucherat wrote:
> Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>> you've been used to getting your way, all the time, you have a very 
>> hard to functioning when you don't get your way, you throw tantrums, 
>> threats and all kinds of accusations around you instead of working 
>> towards a resolution.
>> This isn't a one-man show, never has been. It's give an take. I think 
>> a lot of people, including me, have disagreed with things you've 
>> done, specially the way you abuse users providing feedback on 
>> bugzilla, but we all go along for the sake of the project and the 
>> community.
> Right, I'm evil, I know it by now. Since you, thankfully, are not 
> evil, I would need to qualify how development works on the following 
> components:
sure, I'll be happy to
> - clustering functionality
anyone welcome to join, I get most of the feedback from the user 
community and that drives the development here.

> - HTTP NIO connector
no one in the tomcat developer community believed in this project, 
turned out to work quite well.
again, tons of feedback from the user community, and as always folks are 
welcome to join
> - and now, Comet functionality in trunk
had you actually bothered to reply to:
in all three instances, I'd openly said that we can revise it.
> If these aren't a one man show ... You're never participating in other 
> components, where there's actual collaboration. In clustering, there 
> used one other contributor, but you managed to scare off the only 
> other contributor with constant refactorings.
I'll leave Peter to answer if he got scared off or not. I'm not going to 
speak for him, I don't believe anyone has the right to.
But the refactorings were necessary, and extremely useful.
turns out that even jboss/jgroups adopted a few ideas from here 
(example: multiplex channel and concurrency in the channel stack)
> About BZ, which is a legitimate claim, I find reports of many people 
> to simply be irritating. The feeling grows with time, and it's been a 
> long time. As a result, I am not patient at all. To avoid the problem, 
> I am now not often commenting in BZ anymore, which works reasonably well.
> About the Comet functionality evolution, I evidently agreed on a 
> number of features, which I thought you had understood (it turned out 
> to not be so accurate). I never agreed to specific APIs, and I never 
> said I wouldn't refine my ideas. Starting with a fully explicit and 
> detailed API is cool, but then I did start looking at usage, improving 
> it, and removing cruft. It's an iterative improvement process.
see the links above
> The rest of the email does not make much sense to me. I think if you 
> believe I am bad for the community, you should not waste more time, 
> and call for a PMC vote to remove my commit privileges. It's been done 
> before in other projects in similar situations.
another ultimatum?
I'll leave that to the PMC chair, as that would fall into the category 
of such decisions. As for me personally, I think you are a very good 
coder, somewhat short sighted on other folks ideas and communication 
skills, but you've done lots of good for the project, (maybe not as much 
for the community).


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