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From "Yoav Shapira" <yo...@apache.org>
Subject Re: 6.0 status
Date Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:29:08 GMT
Hi,

On 12/21/06, Remy Maucherat <remm@apache.org> wrote:
> I think it would be nice to proceed with a vote for 6.0.6 (no stable
> this time either due to another batch of small glitches, but I think it
> could be a beta if no further problems are found), as long as releasing
> a new 6.0.7 alpha build.

We might as well leave 6.0.6 as it is right now, alpha, and focus
efforts on 6.0.7, in which we can shoot for a stable-quality build.

> Admin: I didn't see anyone yet complain or ask for the admin webapp in
> 6.0, so I suppose it's really ok to not have it
>
> comments?

Four related thoughts, which I think add up to why it's not urgent to
do work on our own admin app for Tomcat 6.

One, the management app market has matured since the admin webapp was
originally developed:  there are now a bunch of capable admin apps
that support Tomcat: the lambda probe, hyperic, jmanage, mc4j, BEA's
thing, etc.

Two, as our JMX support has improved, it's become easier for people to
script their own stuff together via JMX consoles, Ant scripts, etc, so
there's less usage of the manual click to do stuff admin webapp.

Three, and this is kind of an accidental bonus: I think users got used
to not having an admin webapp out of the box once we changed the
Tomcat 5.5 distro, and that's led to more users doing #1 and #2 above
rather than relying on our admin webapp out of the box.

Four, we've only had alpha releases, and I assume the uptake on these
has been fairly low.  Once we label a release as beta or, even more,
stable, we'll get a bunch more testers, and then we'll see if/how much
complaining there is about the admin webapp.

Yoav

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