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From "Yoav Shapira" <yo...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Funding someone to fix a few bugs
Date Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:35:39 GMT
Yup, all agreed with what you said below.

Yoav

On 9/11/06, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <devlists@hanik.com> wrote:
> Yoav Shapira wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I think this is getting philosophical and off-topic...
> >
> > On 9/11/06, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <devlists@hanik.com> wrote:
> >> he he, we all have, including you, received money for consulting
> >> services due to our association and skillset gained from the ASF.
> >
> > Sure I have, and like I said I'm not criticizing that in any way.
> >
> >> if someone offers you $$ to fix a bug, that is no different. Whether the
> >> bug gets committed or not, has nothing to do with the $$,
> >> it simply follows the ASF process.
> >
> > What George is suggesting that no money would be paid unless a patch
> > is committed, so it's not just about the ASF process.
> yeah, that wont fly, but if someone is will to take that risk, ie doing
> work pro-bono so to speak, then again, its the agreement between the
> client and the vendor.
> > We all agree (I
> > think) that the patch review process will be followed as usual, and we
> > also all trust each other to have the good of the project and the ASF
> > in mind.  None of these are the point.
> >
> >> no, but we all live in a monetary world, so unless we are trust fund
> >> babies, money has to come from somewhere. if you don't like to call that
> >> funding, fine, but its money, used for a purpose, in your case, pay for
> >> your time and your equipment that allows you to work on ASF projects :)
> >
> > That's a very abstract economic notion, under which indeed everything
> indeed, it follows the same basis that you are right now inhaling some
> of the same atoms that Napoleon did back in his days.
>
> > is paid for, including things like biological cell division, the gulf
> > stream in the ocean, etc.  I bought my computer with money from my
> > current job, which has never had anything to do with the ASF.  I use
> > it to do ASF work on my free time, etc.  If you think that's the same
> > as someone paying me for a commit only after I make the commit (and if
> > you think the latter doesn't skew someone's priorities), we're living
> > in a different world, but that's OK ;)
> yes, you are completely right, no one can "pay to commit" meaning a
> commit is never guaranteed, the deal is completely outside the realm of ASF.
> however, if someone is willing to do it under his terms, its just a risk
> to the implementer since there is a chance he/she had to work for free,
> now, that would classify as free work :)
>
> think we've beaten this to death, sounds like we agree,
> a) he is allowed to solicit people, and pay them to do work, in this
> case it happens to be Tomcat bugs
> b) that work could result in patches being committed into the ASF code base
> c) there is no guarantee those patches will be committed, they are
> subject to the ASF rules and policies
>
> Filip
>
> >
> > Yoav
> >
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