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From "Yoav Shapira" <>
Subject Re: SVN messages.
Date Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:14:49 GMT

On 7/20/06, Ian Darwin <> wrote:
> > And honestly, people who want to filter these messages out can do so,
> > whether they are on their own list or on this one.  It's quite easy to
> > create rules for them, including temporary filters like to handle
> > today's unusual amount of messages.
> That is the wrong answer:-) You are ignoring the anti-community
> effects of all that trash being sent over the internet - probably
> several gigabytes of traffic wasted in one day - as well as the costs to
> people who pay for bandwidth - filtering it is too late!
> 2400 messages at 2294 bytes * 500 subscribers is about 2.5GB of totally
> garbage network traffic sent out by the Apache mail server over a few
> hours (I don't know how many subscribers there are, that was just a
> guess). And that 2294 is a bit high as it includes the Received: lines
> that are added by sendmail, but still, it's a measurable amount of
> wasted bandwidth.

Yes, no one says it was good or effective or efficienct.  All I was
saying is that it's a one-time thing, hopefully, so to change the
infrastructure because of it seems unwarranted.  If someone really has
an itch to scratch here, go enhance SVN to lock entire trees in one
atomic operation ;)


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