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From "Costin Manolache" <cos...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Tomcat & JDK for PDA arm processor
Date Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:44:40 GMT
Looks interesting, pretty good footprint.

One correction - none of the features you mention are part of the
Servlet spec actually, at
least AFAIK. My understanding is that JNDI is required only if running
in a J2EE env, and reloading, JSP, SSL, clustering are not required.

How did you get it to run in CDC - don't you need the collection
classes from JDK1.4 ?

Costin

On 4/24/06, Rick Knowles <rick@knowleses.org> wrote:
> (Forgive a shameless plug, but seems it might be relevant to this thread)
>
> I just thought I'd mention Winstone (winstone.sourceforge.net) for this
> application too - there have been some people running it successfully on
> J2ME CDC 1.0 PP 1.0. It also lets you cut out some parts of the spec you
> don't want (eg JSP, JNDI, servlet reloading, SSL,  clustering) by
> deleting packages from the jarfile. Latest version is v0.8.1, but the
> CVS version is stable too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
> Costin Manolache wrote:
> > Not sure Jetty is fit for embedded use either.
> >
> > http://khttp.objectweb.org/ - or something similar, capable of running
> > in CVM or even KVM - could be a viable solution for java on low end
> > devices.
> >
> > The real problem is not the size of tomcat itself - but the number of
> > JVM classes it uses and all the layers and features that need to be
> > loaded.
> >
> > What people fail to understand very often is that flash has very
> > different characteristics from a hard drive, and a 200MHz processor
> > and 32MB ( or even 400MHz/64MB ) are slightly different from a 2G Hz/
> > 1 G RAM or even a low end - 1GHz/256M :-)
> >
> >
> > Costin
> >
> > On 4/23/06, Preston L. Bannister <preston@bannister.us> wrote:
> >
> >> How small does it need to be?
> >>
> >> If you really need a full HTTP + servlets configuration then it might be
> >> easier to use one of the smaller Jetty configurations (
> >> http://jetty.mortbay.org/ ).
> >>
> >> Do you really need servlets (i.e. is this webapp meant to run anywhere)?
> >> Dropping the standard servlet interface will slim things down.
> >>
> >> Do you really need the ability to handle heavy traffic?  Both Tomcat and
> >> Jetty put extra effort into handling large numbers of connections with high
> >> throughput - which translates to bigger code and data.   If you don't need
> >> this ability, then a simpler HTTP server could be a better bet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> --
> Servlet v2.4 container in a single 160KB jar file ? Try Winstone (http://winstone.sourceforge.net/)
>
>
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