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From Haroon Rafique <haroon.rafi...@utoronto.ca>
Subject RE: never say never...
Date Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:56:45 GMT
On Tuesday at 12:54pm, JB=>Jay Burgess <lists@vtgroup.com> wrote:

JB> The following comments are not intended to be a personal attack on 
JB> anyone. However, I can't stand by and watch George speak my mind for 
JB> me, word for word, and not chime in and say "I agree!".  Plus, I think 
JB> if you took a poll, you'd find he speaks for a large number of list 
JB> subcribers.
JB> 

Yes Jay, other members have that feeling too. If we take a look at the 
recent past, there are various examples of rudeness, impropriety and lack 
of respect.

There's the thread:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=113107961000002&r=1&w=2
Subject: Sloppy, Lazy Tomcat Developers (Was: Persistent) which speaks 
volumes about how the tomcat dev community is turning people away. 

Constant threats of banning people don't help:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-dev&m=113109876214068&w=2
and
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-dev&m=113803462800300&w=2
and
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-dev&m=113654919116826&w=2

In addition, what does a guy need to do get his bug fixed!!!!???
I don't claim to be an expert by any means and the quality of the patch is 
not that great either, but come on:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-dev&m=113024930913866&w=2
Subject: solicit some interest in fixing bug 36847 (PatchAvailable)
and
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-dev&m=113742608431361&w=2
Subject: squeaky wheel gets the oil (so please fix bug 36847)

So, yes, the persistent among us will keep trying but, for sure, a few of 
use will be turned away for good.

Cheers,
--
Haroon Rafique
<haroon.rafique@utoronto.ca>


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