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From Peter Rossbach ...@objektpark.de>
Subject Re: Tomcat 6 source organisation
Date Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:13:42 GMT
Yes!

I also thing we don't use maven2.

+1 to use ant

Peter


Am 28.02.2006 um 19:49 schrieb Bill Barker:

>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Costin Manolache [mailto:costin@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:24 AM
>> To: Tomcat Developers List
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat 6 source organisation
>>
>> On 2/28/06, Peter Rossbach <pr@objektpark.de> wrote:
>>> We can have maven2 dependency management without use maven2
>> complete.
>>>
>>> see. http://maven.apache.org/ant-tasks.html
>>
>
> We've had some problems with the <m2 /> tasks over in Gump-land.
>
>> I have no problem with using maven or similar tasks for downloading
>> the deps, if they
>> can provide the same functionality with our build hacks, or at least
>> use them for the simple
>> cases.
>>
>
> I'm not sure that Maven could handle the current tomcat-dbcp task  
> well, and
> I don't really see a use-case for a mixed dependency management system
> myself.
>
>> I'm just -1 on using a framework that forces a particular way to do
>> things ( nothing personal
>> with maven, same -1 for any other framework :-). I know people have
>> religious ideas about
>> right and wrong, and frameworks is an expression of this - I just  
>> hope
>> I won't see this in tomcat...
>>
>
> Also my personal opinion.  Also, Gump doesn't currently support  
> Maven2, so
> we'd loose Gump by going to Maven2 (which, some people might think is
> a-good-thing :).
>
>> It may be good to look at what other options exists for download and
>> pick one that is easy to use and fits well - maven might be the best
>> or not, that's one benefit of picking components and tools instead of
>> 'they know better' frameworks.
>>
>> Costin
>>
>>>
>>> I thing maven is good for standard prepare/compile/test,
>> but is heavy
>>> to use with spezial things like the current tomcat release build. I
>>> have heard that some "go back to ant" discussion start at the
>>> jetspeed project.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 28.02.2006 um 17:50 schrieb Keith Wannamaker:
>>>
>>>> +1 for consolidating into a single module/src folder.
>>>>
>>>> maven has matured since I last looked.  It seems the biggest
>>>> advantages for us would be dependency management and a
>> common build
>>>> layout.  I don't have a feel for how much work it would take to
>>>> convert, but it doesn't seem like we would loose much if that
>>>> approach were taken.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I think it is time to decide how the source repository
>> is going to
>>>>> be organized, with the questions being:
>>>>> - how many source folders do we need (Costin wanted one, while
>>>>> others like Jacob seem to want "modules") ?
>>>>> - do we continue to use Ant ?
>>>>> - etc
>>>>> Any ideas ?
>>>>> Rémy
>>>>
>>>>
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