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From Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <devli...@hanik.com>
Subject Re: Tomcat 6 source organisation
Date Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:22:32 GMT
+1 on the easier source tree

+0 on maven.

Since I personally don't know Maven, I would want to say no to that. 
Cause if someone says Maven 2 rocks, then I would be happy to learn it 
and use it here. But I couldn't provide much help integrating it.

Filip


Peter Rossbach wrote:
> Yes!
>
> I also thing we don't use maven2.
>
> +1 to use ant
>
> Peter
>
>
> Am 28.02.2006 um 19:49 schrieb Bill Barker:
>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Costin Manolache [mailto:costin@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:24 AM
>>> To: Tomcat Developers List
>>> Subject: Re: Tomcat 6 source organisation
>>>
>>> On 2/28/06, Peter Rossbach <pr@objektpark.de> wrote:
>>>> We can have maven2 dependency management without use maven2
>>> complete.
>>>>
>>>> see. http://maven.apache.org/ant-tasks.html
>>>
>>
>> We've had some problems with the <m2 /> tasks over in Gump-land.
>>
>>> I have no problem with using maven or similar tasks for downloading
>>> the deps, if they
>>> can provide the same functionality with our build hacks, or at least
>>> use them for the simple
>>> cases.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure that Maven could handle the current tomcat-dbcp task 
>> well, and
>> I don't really see a use-case for a mixed dependency management system
>> myself.
>>
>>> I'm just -1 on using a framework that forces a particular way to do
>>> things ( nothing personal
>>> with maven, same -1 for any other framework :-). I know people have
>>> religious ideas about
>>> right and wrong, and frameworks is an expression of this - I just hope
>>> I won't see this in tomcat...
>>>
>>
>> Also my personal opinion.  Also, Gump doesn't currently support 
>> Maven2, so
>> we'd loose Gump by going to Maven2 (which, some people might think is
>> a-good-thing :).
>>
>>> It may be good to look at what other options exists for download and
>>> pick one that is easy to use and fits well - maven might be the best
>>> or not, that's one benefit of picking components and tools instead of
>>> 'they know better' frameworks.
>>>
>>> Costin
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thing maven is good for standard prepare/compile/test,
>>> but is heavy
>>>> to use with spezial things like the current tomcat release build. I
>>>> have heard that some "go back to ant" discussion start at the
>>>> jetspeed project.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 28.02.2006 um 17:50 schrieb Keith Wannamaker:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for consolidating into a single module/src folder.
>>>>>
>>>>> maven has matured since I last looked.  It seems the biggest
>>>>> advantages for us would be dependency management and a
>>> common build
>>>>> layout.  I don't have a feel for how much work it would take to
>>>>> convert, but it doesn't seem like we would loose much if that
>>>>> approach were taken.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I think it is time to decide how the source repository
>>> is going to
>>>>>> be organized, with the questions being:
>>>>>> - how many source folders do we need (Costin wanted one, while
>>>>>> others like Jacob seem to want "modules") ?
>>>>>> - do we continue to use Ant ?
>>>>>> - etc
>>>>>> Any ideas ?
>>>>>> Rémy
>>>>>
>>>>>
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