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From Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Nightly builds broken
Date Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:10:47 GMT
Hi,
Mmm, I'm neutral on nightly builds.  They can lead to more trouble
than it's worth:

- Users using a nightly build of unknown stability instead of an
actual release, then asking for support
- Extra load on infrastructure
- Extra load on Gump people to keep the relevant scripts and Gumpy
files up to date

And for what?  This user was the first request I've seen in a long
long time for nightly builds, and he didn't even want the whole build,
just the jsp examples webapp containing the XSS fix.  So I don't think
they're used that much, don't think they add much value.  Anyone doing
testing, be it individuals or organizations like JBoss, Covalent,
Spikesource, whatever, isn't going to test, much less ship, off a
nightly build.  And if someone really wants a build at any time, it's
easy (and documented) to build individually on the client side using
our existing build file and its download target.

Actually, maybe I'm closer to -1 than 0 on nightly builds ;)

Yoav

On 1/24/06, Peter Rossbach <pr@objektpark.de> wrote:
> +1
> to have nightly builds!
>
> Regards
> Peter
>
>
>
> Am 24.01.2006 um 16:52 schrieb Jeanfrancois Arcand:
>
> > Hi Yoav,
> >
> > Yoav Shapira wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> A user pointed out to me that our nightly builds appear to be
> >> broken. First I assumed it was due Gump unhappiness and I thought
> >> Mark T and
> >> Bill B fixed it over the past few days.  But last night's builds
> >> still
> >> look whacky: http://cvs.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-5/
> >> nightly/. The binaries are 45 bytes in size and invalid, the
> >> sources are about
> >> 200MB in size (Tomcat 5.5.15 correct source distros are a little less
> >> than 6MB).
> >> Also as an aside, all the Gump files still call it jakarta-tomcat-*
> >> rather than apache-tomcat-* or just tomcat-*.  I'm not a Gump expert,
> >> but I believe the Gump project file we want to update is (at least)
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/gump/metadata/project/jakarta-
> >> tomcat-catalina.xml.
> >
> > I've posted here a long time ago asking if we still want to have
> > nightly or not, and got no response, So I stopped the script since
> > it was still using CVS. Do we want nightly build? If yes, then I
> > will fix the script and re-add it to the cron job.
> >
> > -- Jeanfrancois
> >
> >
> >> Thoughts?
> >> --
> >> Yoav Shapira
> >> System Design and Management Fellow
> >> MIT Sloan School of Management
> >> Cambridge, MA, USA
> >> yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com
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--
Yoav Shapira
System Design and Management Fellow
MIT Sloan School of Management
Cambridge, MA, USA
yoavs@computer.org / www.yoavshapira.com

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