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From Remy Maucherat <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] SOC temporary committer Anders Nyman
Date Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:46:43 GMT
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> At 01:25 PM 7/11/2005, you wrote:
>>William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>>>It's important for students involved with SoC to learn to use
>>>the tools of our organization;
>>I don't agree with you. The Tomcat is not place for some
>>'sandbox' projects.
>>If the ASF have some agreement with Google then it should
>>have created a 'SoC Google sandbox' not trying to force
>>every project to create a 'Google sandbox'.
> The ASF didn't agree with Google that 'we need more code'
> (many projects seem overwhelmed at times by the amount of code
> they manage already, no slight intended...)  The ASF agreed that 
> Open Source needs to continue to grow in contributors.
> The only way to grow more contributors is to have them learn
> in-place.  The mentor's job is to help them set up, avoid the
> usual foibles, help them participate in the community, and do
> a bit of steering of the project.  Because the entire pace is
> 'accelerated' it is humanistically challenging, but far from
> impossible to bring an individual up to speed over a month or
> few.
> So it's unusual, and we aren't handing away keys to the entire
> kingdom.  But setting up a sandbox (not your problem, it's the
> mentors) and watching the progress (if it scratches your itch)
> is not an imposition on the individual project communities.

Ok, so if we say it's the mentor's responsability, then it should be 
fine. I'll let the persons I'm mentoring know about the infrstructure we 
chose, then.


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