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From "Allistair Crossley" <Allistair.Cross...@QAS.com>
Subject RE: JSP changes cause web app reload in 5.5?
Date Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:41:20 GMT
Remy,
 
I really have to bite my lip sometimes with your blunt replies.
 
The fact of the matter is that I am not stupid, nor do I have a vivid imagination. You may
be a developer of Tomcat but that does not necessarily equate to you being right all the time
about bugs, and I have seen several times where you are wrong, several of which have been
things I have reported and one of which I fixed. Give me some credit please.
 
Now, the fact of the matter is, we have a situation where Tomcat *is* without a doubt reloading
our web application on *all* developers' personal Tomcat 5.5.5 instances. We are all working
on different subsystems across the code base too and same behaviour. A very junior developer
said to me this morning, "this new Tomcat is a little temperamental isn't it?". Now this guy
does not know much about how Tomcat works, but he is very aware of what a Tomcat looks like
when reloading a web application, e.g a request goes in and we get broken response HTML coming
back, and of course definate proof in the logs stating quite explicitly that the web application
is being reloaded. My guess at JDT compiler was simply based on the fact that it is used for
JSP compilation and is new. An assertion or guess that is not "vivid" imo.
 
So I appreciate you cannot reproduce it with maybe servlet-examples OK. But the issue *is
not* my "vivid imagination". So, I wonder how I can provide something that will make you believe
it. I will try and get something together for you asap.
 
Cheers, Allistair

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:remm@apache.org] 
	Sent: Tue 14/12/2004 17:07 
	To: Tomcat Developers List 
	Cc: 
	Subject: Re: JSP changes cause web app reload in 5.5?
	
	

	Allistair Crossley wrote:
	
	>Myself and my developers have noticed that with our new 5.5 development Tomcats changes
to JSPs now cause Tomcat to reload our web applications.
	> 
	>
	I cannot reproduce this.
	
	>Is this expected behaviour? Perhaps the new JDT compiler? Can it be stopped without using
reloadable="false"? We don't use anti JAR locking either.
	> 
	>
	You have a vivid imagination. What else ?
	
	Rémy
	
	
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