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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:04:16 -0400
From: Jeanfrancois Arcand <jfarcand@apache.org>
Subject: Re: [5.5] Packaging
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Remy Maucherat wrote:

> Costin Manolache wrote:
>
>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Please make sure "target=1.3" is present in all javac tasks :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shouldn't we support only JRE 1.4 and 5.0 instead ? I would be able 
>>> to replace jakarta-regexp use with Java regexp. Obviously people who 
>>> don't want to upgrade (ex: I saw a really funny thread on 
>>> tomcat-user about a guy who wants JMX runtime stats on 4.1.x, like 
>>> the ones that were in 5.0.x) aren't going to upgrade to this new 
>>> branch, because of API breakage.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm using 1.3 most of the time, there is a _lot_ of software out 
>> there that doesn't work in jdk1.4 and won't work in jdk1.5 either. 
>> Not to mention companies having policies and supporting only one VM ( 
>> so they
>> don't have to deal with all the incompatibilities between versions ).
>>
>> I'm personally -1 on droping support for 1.3 ( well, I would be +1 on 
>> supporting J2ME or 1.1 as a baseline :-).
>
>
> Well, that's your opinion, and you have one vote (I'll be sure to call 
> a vote on that). This no longer makes any sense to me.

+1 for the vote. :-) I'm in favor of requiring j2se 5.0 (but I work at 
Sun so I might have a couple of bad habits ;-) )

-- Jeanfrancois


>
>> Even compiling software with jdk1.5 or loading it in an IDE is 
>> problematic.
>>
>> I think we should value stability more than featurism - and value 
>> flexibility and modularity more than bloat.
>
>
> I don't see why cleaning up useless depedencies gets labelled as 
> "featurism". OTOH, it seems to me it reduces bloat.
> JRE 1.4.2 is now very stable, so there are no stability concerns.
>
> R�my
>
>
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