Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 61356 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2004 19:56:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Jul 2004 19:56:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 8653 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jul 2004 19:56:47 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 8610 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jul 2004 19:56:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tomcat Developers List" Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 8596 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jul 2004 19:56:46 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [12.11.148.30] (HELO mxrelay.ptc.com) (12.11.148.30) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with ESMTP; Tue, 06 Jul 2004 12:56:45 -0700 Received: from HQ-EXFE3.ptcnet.ptc.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxrelay.ptc.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i66JttVJ023218 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.253.9.102] ([132.253.9.102]) by HQ-EXFE3.ptcnet.ptc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:56:12 -0400 Message-ID: <40EB03DA.8080605@ptc.com> Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 14:56:10 -0500 From: Jess Holle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: [5.next] Progress References: <40B9EDC6.3070002@apache.org> <40C9E2EC.1000206@apache.org> <40D89680.2090904@apache.org> <40D9C59C.9020501@apache.org> <00bc01c45951$3df8e000$3d37a8c0@bbarkerxp> <40D9D440.2080409@apache.org> <40E0B1CE.6010801@apache.org> <40E2BCC0.1030205@objektpark.de> <40E2C483.3060003@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <40E2C483.3060003@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jul 2004 19:56:12.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[49D7FA90:01C46393] X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N >>> - Possibly require JDK 1.5 (cleaner code, annotations, integrated >>> JMX and JMX >>> remote, etc) >> >> I have made prototype for mx4J JSR 160 support it looks very nice. >> Can't we refactor the ServerLifecycleListener also? >> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=29259 > > No, that listener needs to go IMO. This listener is useless in the end > (for this branch): this is done at the VM level much more cleanly, and > the VM also provides tons of runtime statistics that nobody will want > to live without. I'll rethink my position if J2SE 5 (I'm learning ;) ) > turns out bad somehow, but I don't think the core VM is a big rewrite, > so I expect it to be stable. I'll start using it soon for my builds > and testing, and I'll see how it goes. Though I also really like Java 5's [yep, another neat numbering change from Sun :-)] built-MBeans for JVM monitoring, I'd *really* like to see a JSR 160 solution in Tomcat that works in Java 1.4.x and Java 1.5 (aka 5). Is this the plan/hope? At a high level it does not look too nasty to do this.... -- Jess Holle --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org