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From jean-frederic clere <>
Subject Re: Some JK2 ideas
Date Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:29:01 GMT
Henri Gomez wrote:
> Andy Armstrong wrote:
>> Mladen Turk wrote:
>>> In contrary, it makes it simpler, cause you have a common 
>>> denominator, and
>>> that is
>>> 'well documented' config file, usable on any container.
>> Well documented is the crux here for me. Or at least readily 
>> understandable. I've just had someone nearly abandon Tomcat altogether 
>> because they had a problem (with file uploads) that required the 
>> latest version of the IIS connector but they couldn't find out how to 
>> configure it.
>> I find it frustrating that we're an Apache project but we're currently 
>> nowhere near Apache in usability terms. Right now running Tomcat with 
>> another webserver is a scary proposition.
>> All the JK code has to do is forward eligible requests from the host 
>> web server to Tomcat. I'm afraid that right now it behaves like a self 
>> indulgent vanity project with aspirations above its station. With 
>> appropriate apologies for the toes that I'm treading on why tge hell 
>> is JK so convoluted?
> There is weeks I'm thinking about another approach for Apache to
> Tomcats (AJP13) requests relaying.
> My idea is about a new module, only Apache 2.x for now, which will
> make use of SetEnv, SetEnvIf, BrowserMath and Location
> directives to redirect some URLs to tomcats via AJP.

Everything in httpd.conf, probably that is a good idea. Reusing existing 
directives also.

> Many users complains about problems between Directive, Location,
> JkMount and of course the configuration complexity of JK and JK2,
> and yes jk/jk2 are big when you compare them to modules like
> mod_rewrite or mod_proxy.
> What I'd like will be a true Apache module where all settings will
> be in httpd.conf, a module where there will be only one way to configure
> or define something (which is not the case for JK2 for instance).
> After all we're ASF commiter and making a specific Apache 2.x connector
> seems a reasonable goal.
> The code in jk/jk2 is now so complex that there is only a small
> number of people who can be involved in.
> Ok, now that I exposed my general idea, I'd like to have your opinion
> about what could be a lighter module.

Renew mod_webapp!

> Regards
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