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From Jess Holle <>
Subject Re: [] Progress
Date Tue, 06 Jul 2004 19:56:10 GMT

>>> - Possibly require JDK 1.5 (cleaner code, annotations, integrated 
>>> JMX and JMX
>>> remote, etc)
>> I have made prototype for mx4J JSR 160 support it looks very nice.
>> Can't we refactor the ServerLifecycleListener also?
> No, that listener needs to go IMO. This listener is useless in the end 
> (for this branch): this is done at the VM level much more cleanly, and 
> the VM also provides tons of runtime statistics that nobody will want 
> to live without. I'll rethink my position if J2SE 5 (I'm learning ;) ) 
> turns out bad somehow, but I don't think the core VM is a big rewrite, 
> so I expect it to be stable. I'll start using it soon for my builds 
> and testing, and I'll see how it goes.

Though I also really like Java 5's [yep, another neat numbering change 
from Sun :-)] built-MBeans for JVM monitoring, I'd *really* like to see 
a JSR 160 solution in Tomcat that works in Java 1.4.x and Java 1.5 (aka 5).

Is this the plan/hope?  At a high level it does not look too nasty to do 

Jess Holle

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