Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 99505 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2003 17:47:28 -0000 Received: from exchange.sun.com (192.18.33.10) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 2003 17:47:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 13361 invoked by uid 97); 13 Apr 2003 17:49:25 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-tomcat-dev@nagoya.betaversion.org Received: (qmail 13354 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2003 17:49:25 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 2003 17:49:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 98671 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2003 17:47:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tomcat Developers List" Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 98652 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2003 17:47:21 -0000 Received: from icarus.apache.org (208.185.179.13) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 2003 17:47:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 55901 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2003 17:47:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO apache.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.apache.org with SMTP; 13 Apr 2003 17:47:20 -0000 Message-ID: <3E99A2A9.6050103@apache.org> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:47:21 +0200 From: Remy Maucherat Organization: ASF User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: [5.0] Xerces 2 impact on startup References: <3E983D37.3020308@apache.org> <3E992FF5.100@apache.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: localhost.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Costin Manolache wrote: > Remy Maucherat wrote: > > I agree - the startup time is important. Tomcat itself ( with no app ) > starts very quickly - and IMO caching the context info ( in a .ser file ) > would take care of most of it. That's why I started to add "Serialiable" > markers and sort out the "transient" fields that shouldn't be saved. > > However there are many more important issues - I don't expect this to get > into 5.0. Getting the code stable and finishing few remaining open issues > should be the biggest priority. > > Moving back to crimson - or no parser at all for JDK1.4+ - and having > a small bundle with ant+xerces+a script that validates an XML file > against DTD and schema would be an improvement for startup time, > and reduce the size and complexity. My +1 if anyone wants to propose it :-) Yes, that sounds reasonable. We could pitch the main distribution as JDK 1.4+, and provide a package of binaries for older VMs, as well as that deployer package ? Obviously, this may not happen unless contributors show up (this could be a nice small project for new developers, hint, hint) :) Remy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org