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From Amy Roh <amy...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution
Date Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:36:02 GMT


Bill Barker wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Remy Maucherat" <remm@apache.org>
> To: "Tomcat Developers List" <tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution
>
> > Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> > > Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> > >
> > >> on 2002/12/10 3:23 PM, "Glenn Nielsen" <glenn@mail.more.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Then we only have one download (perhaps large) but with a variety
> > >>> of different installs.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Right now, I have to specially distribute Tomcat for Scarab. Instead,
> > >> I want
> > >> one small download that I can point people at and tell them to copy
> their
> > >> scarab.war into. It should be a download which only contains code and
> > >> data
> > >> that Scarab requires (which is a minimal JSR 154 container).
> > >>
> > >> -jon
> > >>
> > >
> > > Right.  You need a distribution tailored for your use.  Others may have
> > > slightly different dists they need. Where does it stop? Would we end up
> > > with 2-3 dozen different distributions?  Tomcat can be used in so many
> > > different ways that it can be very difficult for those devs who vote to
> > > decide on how many dists there should be and what they should contain.
> > >
> > > A single distribution with the most used components which included
> > > ant with different install targets would be much more flexible.  Those
> > > components not included with Tomcat could be installed by automating
> > > retrieval and installation from a remote site.
> > >
> > > This achieves your goal of being able to easily setup a servlet only
> > > instance of Tomcat _and_ meets the requirement of only having one
> > > distribution.
> > >
> > > The contentious issue would be what components are bundled with
> > > Tomcat and which can be installed but have to be retrieved from a
> > > remote site.
> >
> > I think this is a bad good idea.
> > That's more or less what the Windows installer does or could do, and
> > that's good as that's what Windows users expect.
> >
> > However, I doubt Unix people are used to or like installers and similar
> > technologies.
> >
> > Profiles look similar to how well known servers work, so I clearly favor
> > that solution.
> >
> > I think it would be time to do a wrap up vote.
>
> Well, (without checking), I believe that this one started last Friday and
> Jakarta Votes last one-week.  Unless you propose an additional Vote (which
> will last one more week :), to replace this one, my count (of binding votes)
> is: 3 +1, 2 +0, 2 -0, 1 -1.  I've also counted 3 non-binding +1s.
>
> The active committers have mostly all voted:  Craig is semi-off tomcat (but
> does great work on tomcat-user :), Amy has always only ever voted on the
> projects she cares about, Kinman & Jan have been blown off by the rest of us
> for months, so what do they care?

It's not that I don't care about this issue but this thread has been getting out
of control for me to read and respond.  I just wanted this heated
discussion/argument/flaming to settle down before I jump in.  I agree with
Martin that too many distributions can be confusing for users.  I vote for one
distribution with options to disable whatever you don't want.  Simple yet
everyone gets only what they want.

Amy



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