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From "Bill Barker" <wbar...@wilshire.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution
Date Wed, 11 Dec 2002 08:55:38 GMT

----- Original Message -----
From: "Remy Maucherat" <remm@apache.org>
To: "Tomcat Developers List" <tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution


> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> > Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> >
> >> on 2002/12/10 3:23 PM, "Glenn Nielsen" <glenn@mail.more.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Then we only have one download (perhaps large) but with a variety
> >>> of different installs.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Right now, I have to specially distribute Tomcat for Scarab. Instead,
> >> I want
> >> one small download that I can point people at and tell them to copy
their
> >> scarab.war into. It should be a download which only contains code and
> >> data
> >> that Scarab requires (which is a minimal JSR 154 container).
> >>
> >> -jon
> >>
> >
> > Right.  You need a distribution tailored for your use.  Others may have
> > slightly different dists they need. Where does it stop? Would we end up
> > with 2-3 dozen different distributions?  Tomcat can be used in so many
> > different ways that it can be very difficult for those devs who vote to
> > decide on how many dists there should be and what they should contain.
> >
> > A single distribution with the most used components which included
> > ant with different install targets would be much more flexible.  Those
> > components not included with Tomcat could be installed by automating
> > retrieval and installation from a remote site.
> >
> > This achieves your goal of being able to easily setup a servlet only
> > instance of Tomcat _and_ meets the requirement of only having one
> > distribution.
> >
> > The contentious issue would be what components are bundled with
> > Tomcat and which can be installed but have to be retrieved from a
> > remote site.
>
> I think this is a bad good idea.
> That's more or less what the Windows installer does or could do, and
> that's good as that's what Windows users expect.
>
> However, I doubt Unix people are used to or like installers and similar
> technologies.
>
> Profiles look similar to how well known servers work, so I clearly favor
> that solution.
>
> I think it would be time to do a wrap up vote.

Well, (without checking), I believe that this one started last Friday and
Jakarta Votes last one-week.  Unless you propose an additional Vote (which
will last one more week :), to replace this one, my count (of binding votes)
is: 3 +1, 2 +0, 2 -0, 1 -1.  I've also counted 3 non-binding +1s.

The active committers have mostly all voted:  Craig is semi-off tomcat (but
does great work on tomcat-user :), Amy has always only ever voted on the
projects she cares about, Kinman & Jan have been blown off by the rest of us
for months, so what do they care?

AFAIK, the vote is wrapped up.

>
> Remy
>
>
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