Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 16383 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2002 01:33:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Oct 2002 01:33:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 7646 invoked by uid 97); 4 Oct 2002 01:33:57 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 7630 invoked by uid 97); 4 Oct 2002 01:33:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tomcat Developers List" Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 7618 invoked by uid 98); 4 Oct 2002 01:33:56 -0000 X-Antivirus: nagoya (v4218 created Aug 14 2002) X-Originating-IP: [211.110.6.219] From: "iasandcb" To: "'Tomcat Developers List'" Subject: RE: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:31:58 +0900 Message-ID: <000201c26b45$d4d68820$1102a8c0@lgibmfn993fasr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <015e01c26b16$7a83b660$ec66a8c0@bbarkerxp> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2002 01:33:11.0662 (UTC) FILETIME=[004B68E0:01C26B46] X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N You can find the requirement of J2SE 1.4 on Page 18, "Relation To JSP 1.2" Requiring the Java 2 platform, version 1.4 or later. and Page 20, "Related Documents" Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition http://java.sun.com/products/jdk/1.4 in JSP 2.0 spec proposed final draft PDF document. (I also replied to Costin, but didn't state the document exactly.) In addition, the document also talks about Unicode 3 system of J2SE 1.4 in i18n issue. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Barker [mailto:wbarker@wilshire.com] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:53 AM To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution ----- Original Message ----- From: "Costin Manolache" To: Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution > iasandcb wrote: > > > First all, I vote > > > > +1 [ ] Yes, remove the LE distribution > > -1 [ ] No, keep both distributions > > > > > > Next, I'd like to make this clear: Tomcat 5 is based on JSP 2.0 > > spec, which requires J2SE 1.4. Therefore Tomcat 5 also can't run > > without J2SE 1.4 ideally. However, I found that the new catalina > > engine and jasper 2 compiler for Tomcat 5 don't mandate so. Is J2SE > > 1.4(or later) necessary for Tomcat 5? Or does Tomcat 5 support J2SE > > 1.3(or earlier) for backward compatibitity with disabled JSP 2 > > feature? My opinion on this issue is that Tomcat 5 should have J2SE > > 1.4 in compliance with JSP 2.0 spec basically. > > What ??? > > Where did you find this info ? I read the JSP2.0 draft and didn't find > such thing. It would be just stupid - I don't know any other spec to > require more than Java2 (i.e. JDK1.2+). > > If the final spec is aproved and includes JDK1.4 requirements - then there's > nothing we can do, we'll have to stop supporting 1.3 in the official tomcat > distibution. But given that now the 2 specs are distinct - and some > people use only the servlet spec, I think the servlet engine and > connectors should remain JDK1.2+. I can't find this either. And if true, would create big problems in that the 2.4 servlet spec mandates only Java 2. J2SE 1.2 is the minimum version of the underlying Java platform with which servlet containers must be built. The only mention of 1.4 I see in either spec is that any 1.4 J2EE implementation must implement Servlet-2.4 & JSP-2.0. Please give a cite for the 1.4 requirement. > > Costin > > > > > > IAS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:remm@apache.org] > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:24 AM > > To: Tomcat Developers List > > Subject: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Before starting to release 5.0.x milestones, I would like to propose > > having only one distribution for Tomcat 5.0.x, and standardize on > > what the LE distribution contains (so well, it's more the other > > distribution which gets removed). > > > > It has some advantages: > > - it is slightly smaller (less these days now that the XML parser > > has to > > > > be shipped again with Tomcat) > > - runs as-is on JDK 1.3 (because of the Xerces inclusion) > > - 99% Apache or Apache-style licence (the JDBC 2 standard extension > > is needed for JDK 1.3 DataSource support :-() > > - less user confusion > > > > The main "problem" is that the user will need additional downloads > > for some of the more advanced features, and the package will also > > not run on > > > > JDK 1.2 as is (but from what I've seen, JDK 1.2 compatibility may > > not be > > > > a priority for developers). > > > > > > +1 [ ] Yes, remove the LE distribution > > -1 [ ] No, keep both distributions > > > > > > Remy > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > > > -- > Costin > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > For additional commands, e-mail: > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: