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From "Bill Barker" <wbar...@wilshire.com>
Subject Re: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution
Date Fri, 04 Oct 2002 17:51:47 GMT

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean-Francois Arcand" <jfarcand@apache.org>
To: "Tomcat Developers List" <tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:39 AM
Subject: Re: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution


>
>
> Bill Barker wrote:
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Remy Maucherat" <remm@apache.org>
> >To: "Tomcat Developers List" <tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:50 PM
> >Subject: Re: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Costin Manolache wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Remy Maucherat wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>>Before starting to release 5.0.x milestones, I would like to propose
> >>>>having only one distribution for Tomcat 5.0.x, and standardize on what
> >>>>the LE distribution contains (so well, it's more the other
distribution
> >>>>which gets removed).
> >>>>
> >>>>It has some advantages:
> >>>>- it is slightly smaller (less these days now that the XML parser has
to
> >>>>be shipped again with Tomcat)
> >>>>- runs as-is on JDK 1.3 (because of the Xerces inclusion)
> >>>>- 99% Apache or Apache-style licence (the JDBC 2 standard extension is
> >>>>needed for JDK 1.3 DataSource support :-()
> >>>>- less user confusion
> >>>>
> >>>>The main "problem" is that the user will need additional downloads for
> >>>>some of the more advanced features, and the package will also not run
on
> >>>>JDK 1.2 as is (but from what I've seen, JDK 1.2 compatibility may not
be
> >>>>a priority for developers).
> >>>>
> >>>><ballot>
> >>>>+1 [X] Yes, remove the LE distribution
> >>>>-1 [ ] No, keep both distributions
> >>>></ballot>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>What would it take to be 100% Apache-style licence ? Can we do some
> >>>introspection tricks or conditional compilation to solve this ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I can remove the JDBC SE JAR, but then the JDBC connection pooling
> >>features won't work right out of the box on JDK 1.3 (assuming it is
> >>possible to run JDK 1.3 with TC 5).
> >>
> >>A great blinking warning should be added to the download page and the
> >>release notes if we do that.
> >>
> >>If somehow the Catalina (with JSP 2 support) adapter requires JDK 1.4,
> >>then JDBC SE can be removed.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, it seems that this has already been done without a [VOTE].  After a
> >long time away from 5.0, I attempted to build it, only to discover that
it
> >can't be built any more.  As a result, I'm now (belatedly) posting my -1
to
> >R1.2 of o.a.c.core.StandardWrapper.java. and R1.1 of
o.a.c.u.SecurityUtil.
> >Please change to a version that compiles under 1.2 at least until there
is a
> >[VOTE] to change the target version.  AFAIK, the target version is still
the
> >same as 4.x (e.g. 1.2).
> >
> I'm confuse. The Tomcat 4.0-4.1 documentatopm requires JDK 1.3 for
> compilling the source code:
>
> " This subproject contains the source code Tomcat 4.0, a server that
implements
> the Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 Specifications from Java Software.  In order
to
> build a binary distribution version of the container from a source
> distribution, you must have a Java Development Kit (JDK) for version 1.3
(or
> later) downloaded and installed (version 1.3.1 recommended), and do the
> following:"
>
> Tomcat should run on 1.2, but should it compile?

Sorry, I missed that one. -1 withdrawn.

>
> -- Jeanfrancois
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >>Remy
> >>
> >>
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