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From Glenn Nielsen <gl...@mail.more.net>
Subject Re: [4.1.10] Stability rating
Date Thu, 05 Sep 2002 00:27:25 GMT
Amy,

I was in the middle of reviewing the admin app when Remy called for the
Tomcat 4.1.10 vote.  I'll provide complete feedback when I have time to
finish my review.

Regards,

Glenn

Amy Roh wrote:
> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>
>>> Glenn Nielsen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remy Maucherat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think milestone 4.1.10 is of good quality and we can consider 
>>>>> releasing it as the first stable release in the 4.1.x line.
>>>>>
>>>>> <ballot>
>>>>> [ ] Alpha
>>>>> [X] Beta
>>>>> [ ] Stable
>>>>> </ballot>
>>>>>
>>>>> If not voting stable, please suggest if possible a list of items 
>>>>> which should be addressed before a milestone can be released as 
>>>>> stable.
>>>>> This vote will run until early friday, and the release announcement 
>>>>> will be made at that time if the release is rated "beta" or "stable".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the admin web application still needs more work.
>>>>
>>>> The list of attributes which can be modified for a Host is incomplete.
>>>> The swallowOutput attribute has not been added.
>>>
> 
> I can add this to admin.  You mean for a Context, right?
> 
>>>> I have not been able to get DefaultContext config info to display in 
>>>> the admin webapp.
>>>
> 
> I've been hoping for someone to implement DefaultContext.remove() or 
> something like that so that the DefaultContext admin features are 
> complete.  I raised the issue a while ago on the list.  I haven't had 
> much time to work on the DefaultContext itself.  Once the method is 
> added, I can add the DefaultContext config to the admin.
> 
> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Damn, we forgot to add that there :-(
>>>
>>> The admin webapp is not in my list of must-haves for a release 
>>> (except when it indicates there's a regression in Jasper). There's 
>>> also a problem with the number of people actually working on it 
>>> (except Amy, I don't see anyone else), so it may take a while to 
>>> polish it.
>>>
>>
>> Then there should be something in the docs and release notes which 
>> state that
>> the admin application is still considered alpha.
>>
>>> BTW, I don't see how adding support for your feature (swallowOutput) 
>>> qualifies as a showstopper ;-) It could probably wait for the next 
>>> milestone without affecting too many people IMHO.
>>>
>>
>> That alone doesn't, but all of the other issues with the admin app does
>> unless we note that the admin app is at an alpha release.  Plus I found
>> a number of places in the admin app code which states that things will
>> be added later.
> 
> 
> ??
> 
> What other work is missing in admin webapp other than DefaultContext? 
> It'll be more helpful if we have a list of things to work on admin to 
> make it complete.  I haven't had much response/feedback from developers.
> 
>>
>> My vote will change to [X] Stable if the admin app is considered 
>> alpha, and documented as such.
> 
> 
> I personally think it's beta but maybe I'm not aware of all the missing 
> features and other issues.  Please let me know.
> 
> Amy
> 
>>
>>
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