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From Steve Downey <steve.dow...@netfolio.com>
Subject Re: Jasper 2 Question
Date Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:59:52 GMT
Jasper2 is targeting JSR45, Debugging Support for Other Languages. 

On Thursday 19 September 2002 06:28 pm, Lenny Karpel wrote:
> ok .. now I am really confused .. here is the tomcat development group ..
> the 'Official Reference Implementation' for JSP .. and I am being told by
> people within this group .. to NOT use it ..
>
> this is truly amazing .. how can this possibly be ..
>
> my original question is about 'bugs' in jasper2 .. not about what tools I
> should use .. my question is not one of religion ..
>
> once again .. the quote from the intellij site ..
>
> "As for Tomcat 4.1.x support, I'm afraid we are out-of-luck here. Tomcat
> 4.0.4 used to generate useful comments in the servlet code, that allowed
> the integration plugin to map jsp line numbers to servlet line numbers. But
> from the new version of Tomcat (Jasper2 in particular), this functionality
> is missing. At least I haven't been able to find anything to enable comment
> generation, and nobody from Tomcat user-list answered my question about
> this."
>
> for myself .. all I want to know .. is if this 'situation' in jasper2 will
> be fixed .. if so .. when .. if not .. why ..
>
> we use JSP here .. as do quite a few others .. in quite a few places ..
>
> i did not post this question to find out that the developers of JSP
> (jasper) would rather I use something else ..
>
> could this possibly be how the 'managers' of this development effort feel
> ??
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bojan Smojver [mailto:bojan@rexursive.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: Tomcat Dev List
> Subject: RE: Jasper 2 Question
>
> On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 04:30, Lenny Karpel wrote:
> > is it right that when I ask a serious question about jasper2 that I
> > get these totally ridiculous answers ?
>
> Well, Jon and Pier are known to throw in a curly one from time to time,
> which keeps all of us here on the list in good spirits  ;-)
>
> Anyway, there is a serious side to all this as JSP's are inherently evil.
> You'll find that creating true MVC applications in Velocity is almost
> trivial. I suggest you do read Jon's article. The fact that JSP's are
> "official", doesn't mean they are good.
>
> Bojan


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