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From "James Mitchell" <>
Subject RE: Vicious Abuse? (an outsiders perspective)
Date Sat, 25 May 2002 15:22:27 GMT
I've been following along with this/these rather ridiculous thread's).

No, I am not a committer, so you can hit the delete key now if you judge
people by their status.

IMHO, giving someone a -1 is one of the rudest things I have seen on this
list in quite a while.
What is most surprising to me, is how you stuck to your ignorant opinion,
even after so many others were willing to vote them in.

I have no plans in the future to become a Tomcat committer, however, I do
have my sights set on the Struts project.  I sincerely hope that there are
no committers there who share your view on 'how to keep yourself important
by keeping others out'.  I have seen this characteristic before in a few
people, of whom shall remain nameless, but they know who they are.

James Mitchell

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pier Fumagalli []
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 10:52 AM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Cc: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Vicious Abuse?
> "Jeff Turner" <> wrote:
> > .. and thankful that people like Costin persevere in spite of rather
> > vicious abuse.
> Vicious abuse? All I am proposing is to add greater flexibility to the
> freedom of those who are involved with the Jakarta project.
> All I'm proposing is to accept the idea that we might have coders
> who don't
> care about new projects or PMCs, they just want their code done,
> or that we
> might have important resources out there who might want to get
> involved with
> this project but cannot be tied to one particular code base?
> Is it a vicious abuse to ask Sally to become an ASF member ALTHOUGH she
> doesn┬╣t know how to code in C or Java, or Perl, and doesn't even know what
> CVS is all about?
> Is it a vicious abuse to ask to free this community from a concept like
> "meritocracy as the number of lines of code you put into CVS"?
> I don't think so, because if this community believes that "freedom" is a
> vicious abuse, this community is racist, racist towards those who can't or
> don't want to have to deal with CVS, no more and no less as one could be
> racist on the color of your skin, or the ideas that populate your mind...
>     Pier (really, really worried)
> --
> [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp:  a billion
> of different
> sublanguages in  one monolithic executable.  It combines the
> power of C with
> the readability of PostScript. [Jamie Zawinski - DNA Lounge - San
> Francisco]
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