Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 69409 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2002 14:07:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2002 14:07:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 21250 invoked by uid 97); 19 Apr 2002 14:07:05 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 21232 invoked by uid 97); 19 Apr 2002 14:07:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tomcat Developers List" Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 21221 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2002 14:07:04 -0000 X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: costinm owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 07:06:36 -0700 (PDT) From: X-X-Sender: To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: MinTC, "terrible rudeness", persistence In-Reply-To: <004f01c1e777$536e8140$6501a8c0@apache.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I am also interested in MinTC. But I must say I understand Remy's point about 'rudeness'. I don't like bloat and I would love to see more modularization ( in 4.x and 3.x and most of the programs I know ). But this should be done by contributing to the project, not by creating a fork. And if MinTC is sucessfull ( and I hope it will ), we'll have all the problems in trying to merge or switch or fight. So even if I don't like Valves and a lot of the 4.x API, I would preffer to have any API changes/modularization/simplifications in the main branch, with pre-agreement from all parties - not in a form of announcements of what has changed. Even if MinTC is a step forward, by adding more modularization and cleaning things - it is certainly not something we participate in at this moment. And I personally believe what is private must remain private - I would be very upset if an sensitive email I send in private to someone is made public ( even with the sender name removed - it was no doubt about who sent the mail, at least from the 'rudeness' clue :-). However, after things settle a bit I would be happy to propose Cristopher as a commiter, and hope the changes and ideas will be discussed here and result in code changes in the main branch. Costin On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Remy Maucherat wrote: > > I've been informed by private email that I am "terribly > > rude" for making announcements of MinTC releases on the > > tomcat-dev list, and that I should not make any futher > > announcements. > > Sorry, but I consider it rude to post announcements about other projects on > the Tomcat mailing list. > I attach the email since it is not public matter. > > > So that's it then? I've been kicked off tomcat-dev (how > > does that work on an open source project!?) because I've > > offended someone by writing code they don't like!?!? > > I am indeed not interested in MinTC. > MinTC has all the problems Catalina had before Coyote, with the only benefit > being that it is smaller and would run on a few more Java platforms. > > Remy > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: