Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 18523 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2002 15:09:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Apr 2002 15:09:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 28820 invoked by uid 97); 19 Apr 2002 15:09:38 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 28791 invoked by uid 97); 19 Apr 2002 15:09:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact tomcat-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tomcat Developers List" Reply-To: "Tomcat Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 28778 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2002 15:09:37 -0000 X-Sent: 19 Apr 2002 15:09:30 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org From: "Christopher K. St. John" Subject: RE: MinTC, "terrible rudeness", persistence X-Sent-From: cks@distributopia.com Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2002 08:09:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.0.8-8 Sender: cks@distributopia.com Message-Id: <20020419080930.27867.h011.c007.wm@mail.distributopia.com.criticalpath.net> X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N costinm@covalent.net wrote: > > The point is not about developing multiple implementations - but about > beeing a part of the community and proposing/discussing changes instead > of posting announcements of a fork's releases. > Costin, My response got to be way too long, so here's just a summary. It comes off as a bit clipped, but that's because it's short, not because the questions were unreasonable :-) - I did discuss MinTC/MinimalTomcat on the dev list, check the archives. The topic didn't seem very popular, but I took that to mean I had weird requirements that few others shared. Later on, I started making announcements as a way to generate discussion and keep the core developers up-to-date. - It's not a fork. If it were a fork, I wouldn't care about the core code. But it's not, so I do. It's not Tomcat 4, but it is, by any reasonable definition, a version of Catalina. - It was always my intention to propose donating the code back to Apache, I should have been more clear about this. But I wanted to wait for the 1.0 release, for obvious reasons. - MinTC is not competition for Tomcat. You would have to be frigging insane to use MinTC if you could possibly use Tomcat 4 instead. But sometimes Tomcat 4 is difficult or impossible to use. That's not because Tomcat 4 is bad, it's just that it's full featured. I didn't think a patch to remove MBeans, JNDI and auto-deployment from the core would be well received :-) If you're interested, there's more detail on the MinTC page. Thanks for your feedback, -- Christopher St. John cks@distributopia.com DistribuTopia http://www.distributopia.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: