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From "Craig R. McClanahan" <craig...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Etiquette, MinimalTomcat, Bug 6670
Date Fri, 01 Mar 2002 17:10:49 GMT


On 1 Mar 2002, Christopher K.St.John wrote:

> Date: 1 Mar 2002 08:26:02 -0800
> From: Christopher K.St.John <cks@distributopia.com>
> Reply-To: Tomcat Developers List <tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org>
> To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: Etiquette, MinimalTomcat, Bug 6670
>
>
>  I'm stuck, and not sure how to proceed. MinimalTomcat really
> needs AuthenticatorBase to be core-clean.
>
>  It may be that this is an unrealistic requirement, and it's
> impossible to make any use of o.a.c.Authenticator package
> outside of o.a.c.core.*. That would be a shame, but, as they
> say, you can't fight city hall.
>
>  But my reading of Craig McClanahan's posting on the subject
> was that I should, in theory, be able to make use of the
> Authenticator classes. There may be practical difficulties
> (like the one reported in Bug 6670), but those difficulties
> are flaws that are a legitimate target for fixes.
>

It should be pretty easy to change this particular use of StandardContext
to use reflection instead.  Because the HEAD branch relies indirectly on
commons-beanutils, this is even easy to set up without using the JDK's
reflection APIs directly.

The longer term approach would be to have a plan to migrate Tomcat 4's
debug logging mechanisms to the new commons-logging wrapper, which would
eliminate the need for this particular linkage and many similar ones
elsewhere.

>  Here are my etiquette questions: (1) What's the deal with
> "request for enhancement"? I read this as "blackhole", but
> I'm honestly not sure. (2) Can I change this back to being
> a bug? Or is that an abuse of bugzilla? (3) Is bringing
> up the topic in email after email until I get a response
> considered (a) legitimate lobbying for an important issue
> that affects a minority of developers and is thus overlooked,
> or (b) spamming.
>

I personally view it as an enhancement request, but that doesn't really
change how I look at it's priority.  Personally, I'd like to see us do
stuff like this.  I'm constrained at the moment by product requirments on
my day job (http://java.sun.com/webservices/webservicespack.html) that is
causing work weeks of > 60 hours over the last couple of months, plus
getting ready for an "itty bitty" trade show (JavaOne :-) at the end of
this month.

In the mean time, persistence is good.

>  Thanks,
>
> --
> Christopher St. John cks@distributopia.com
> DistribuTopia http://www.distributopia.com
>

Craig


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